When people try to place guilt on my plate or the country's I reject the premise. Most of the people putting forward the criticism have no sense of nationalism themselves so on topics like these it's just like we talk different languages.

As for refugees, this country has a proud history on refugees, that is a different discussion.

I would only take refugees from groups with a history of secularism. I would have exceptions atheists or say Islamic gays.....but how you could know these things I wouldn't know.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2017 6.38pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

This was something I was working on when I was in Westminster and quite frankly it's disgusting. This is actually quite old news because the vote which the Tories won by about 20 votes (including the DUP, but not all Tories because some voted against it because they are not all totally heartless arse holes) to stop with the dubs amendment happened a few months before the GE.

Lord Dubs was a Jewish child refugee himself and fought hard along with the lords to get this amendment passed. The Govt waited until the first moment they could get away with scrapping it and did it.

You have to be some kind of f*cked up person to have an issue with taking 3000 unaccompanied children refugees in to a country with the resources we have.

What edict? You can't start with an inaccurate statement and expect to not get pulled up on it.

If that's what you think, say it, rather than stating there was a "promise" by someone to do it.

Optimistic as ever

Ooer .

I've read that there are thousands of willing adopters across this great nation of ours that have been vetted already.

Fair play to them

Can't remember where I read this, I may even have been told . I'm not going trawling.

Makes one feel all warm, fuzzy and proudly patriotic when you see how Great Britain can be.

The middle East has been f****d up
for not months ,weeks, years or decades.
It has been centuries and a religion that we as westerners have only just realised exists is to blame totally.
Don't give me we caused all the issues.
We the west tried to be che gavara and actually help the weakest and most persecuted.
It clearly has created a great scapegoat for the whole rest of the world.
That religion is 500 years younger than christianity.
We were accusing of witchcraft and all types of rubbish with the excuse of religion 500 years ago.
What the Islamic belief is going through now is us that long ago.
It will take that long for it to be realised.