Thank you. That is how it happened. The philosophy article you can't argue with but you can doubt we can do it but hope we do seeing as he's already been hired. I didn't post one post saying I wanted him hired and didn't place one pound on him being hired.

I thought when he was hired that I was the fool for not hedging on a 4th potential manager. Months later I saw the 1st sacking odds during the summer friendlies but didn't feel like it even though Frank was 25/1. Felt stupid again when he was sacked when remembering that 25/1 moment but at least the original bet was correct in some kind of way (it didn't work).

I want any manager to succeed or stay in the job because if not then we're in the sh1t (same for Pardew). I even wanted a game by game appraisal after Burnley but I would've been secretly contacting other managers whilst Frank was hopefully bringing a trickle of points in whilst creating a training ground atmosphere we're not ready for without real competition for places.

i was stating what the reporter from talksport was saying, im sure you will agree that 14/28 games sounds like an uphill struggle.

like i said tho in reality, 35 points should keep us up, 11 wins sounds much more reasonable right now.

not sure what your point is

This. I think Roy's here until the end of his contract - whatever happens. If we go down I think he'll take a crack at getting up straight back up and will not renew if we don't bounce back up

i completely understand and in reality 35 points will keep you up nowadays, still means we need to win 11 games befofe the end of the season.

im sure we will do it, but it wont be easy.

like ive said in the last 5 pre-seasons, i will be happy with staying up on goal difference