This is the same as those who confuse not being happy with how things are runand going with somehow 'hating' Steve Parish. I don't care for his twitter account, karaoke or water boarding videos or Ferrari or aims of Dragons Den, even though he has no mass market or business to consumer experience outside of cpfc. So I don't care about his image, which he holds very dear. But I do care about how decisions are made and the way we've predictably been heading because of unnecessary and risky decisions.

Pullis didn’t really pull it around until he bought Dann and McCarthur in the January window. He also bought WH then but thankfully never selected him ( one big plus for Roy is that he has come to the same conclusion !) The winning run of 5 games came afterwards.

I agree about Benteke and I have been a massive critic but even I have admitted that he will score goals in the right set up just as his record shows. He was never going to be any good under FdBs tactics but Roy has more idea how to get the best out of him just as Sam did.

This is the reality of our situation - we’ve done it before and we can do it again - enough of the doom and gloom!!

Pulis joined us a week before the end of November 2013. All his January signings were made on deadline day; Hennessey, Puncheon, Dann, Ledley and Ince (on loan). McArthur didn't join until the beginning of September 2014, after Pulis had left. Before the January deadline Pulis had already won five and drawn one, so he was already "pulling it around" well before any signings were made.

What we did four years ago has no more bearing on our current position that last Saturday's lottery numbers have on this Saturday's. We've done it before three times now, but that doesn't mean we won't fail the forth time.

Yes we can look at the last nine games and be gloom or look at our recent PL form and see positivity. I know which I'll look at. Obviously I know which you'll look at.

Ignore the progress under Roy and wish that Pulis was available to save us. That's up to you. But personally I'm gonna be upbeat as the first XI actually have been playing well regardless of the obvious striker issues.

And yes Willio it's is likely we won't win today. But i still see many many winnerable games coming up.

I also envisage it getting worse before it gets better but looking at fixtures still to come and our fit first XI I truely do not expect us to be relegated. Still think there was more chance of that in all the other years than this year. Call me a fool, but the quality is there and we have the right type of manager for the job.

Obviously this is the wrong place to find fans that can see the progress being made. Let's face it all season we're gonna have to live with the start we've had, but be fair we should also look at recent results/commitment from our starting XI.

Injuries permitting, we should start picking up a few points nicely between now and Christmas. I think we would've beaten West Ham with Sakho at the back, and maybe Newcastle with Benteke up top (as he's a useful defender of set pieces). We're coming into a batch of interesting games with our form improving.

I'll be significantly less confident if one of Zaha, Sakho, Benteke, Luka, Cabaye or TFM sustains any kind of enduring injury. (Appreciate Benteke's out -- I'm hoping we might see him v Everton).