Initially, I would imagine it would be very limited....but if anything could suffer so obviously from the slippery slope contention....it's this one.

All organizations suffer from mission creep if allowed.

If the EU integrates fully....eventually it's inevitable.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2017 1.52pm)

It's not even remotely feasible, there is not a snowball in hells chance. Or armed forces are amongst the best in the world, if not the best. We might not have the best kit our equipment, and we may not number that many, but as soldiers we are rightly considered the best there is.

The skill gap is just to much, I've worked with a lot of European soldiers: Polish mental, mostly pissed, as were the Macedonian's. French surprisingly average, italian's ....well you can guess. Ze Germans all have beards and can't fight for sh1t probably to embarrassed about last time they got lippy.

I know I joke, but we are a professional Army well trained and motivated. I've not seen anything similar other than the french as I said. To try and mesh them together will be like trying to plait fog.

Edited by dannyh (05 Oct 2017 2.09pm)

We already have a treaty with France for joint co-operation, but further integration would seem impractical.

It sounds like another Juncker power grab, and how could a politician from a minute neutral country like Luxemburg have an understanding of the nature of the power of an EU military force or how to wield it?

Most of these countries do not meet the standing NATO requirements of spending at least 2% of GDP on defence.

It's not even remotely feasible, there is not a snowball in hells chance. Or armed forces are amongst the best in the world, if not the best. We might not have the best kit our equipment, and we may not number that many, but as soldiers we are rightly considered the best there is.

The skill gap is just to much, I've worked with a lot of European soldiers: Polish mental, mostly pissed, as were the Macedonian's. French surprisingly average, italian's ....well you can guess. Ze Germans all have beards and can't fight for sh1t probably to embarrassed about last time they got lippy.

I know I joke, but we are a professional Army well trained and motivated. I've not seen anything similar other than the french as I said. To try and mesh them together will be like trying to plait fog.

Edited by dannyh (05 Oct 2017 2.09pm)

That one that allows them to put on the package things like "produced using pork from the EU", which means it can be from a mix of pigs from various countries and sources. While, coincidentally, Denmark is going through serious issues with their Pork, they previously proudly labelled as "Danish".

Whereas when labelled "British" it means born, reared, slaughtered and processed in Britain.

Then you have the egg problems within the continental EU that were allowed to be sold to consumers.

The point was that EU labelling laws still enable contaminated products to get in the food chain.

When foot and mouth broke out in 2007 we didn't carry on and process the livestock and relabel it as "produced using x, y or z from the EU" we banned all movement of it and destroyed those infected by it.

Salmonella was the mid 80s, the EU egg contamination is still going on. [Link]