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Lyons550 Shirley 11 Sep 17 9.43am
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Well said, Chris Sutton: [Link] There's definitely a change in mood, certainly as far as the ex pro's amongst the pundits are concerned (Jamie c***knapp aside) regarding FdB's treatment in the press...it's encouraging; also a number are questioning SP's thought process if he did end up pushing FdB out the door so soon. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 11 Sep 17 9.43am

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Well said, Chris Sutton:

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There's definitely a change in mood, certainly as far as the ex pro's amongst the pundits are concerned (Jamie c***knapp aside) regarding FdB's treatment in the press...it's encouraging; also a number are questioning SP's thought process if he did end up pushing FdB out the door so soon.

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Lyons550 Shirley 11 Sep 17 9.44am
Originally posted by rikz For me our biggest problem now lays with the squad providing Frank sticks with the 433, we've got sako, Lee, mutch who all offer nothing, puncheon is also just as useless and ineffective, the quicker we get these players off the books and replaced the better, we also have our second striker out on a long term injury. Cant blame Frank for the squad but we will need to be so lucky with injuries this season, then we still need to replace ward and hennessy. Zaha, Townsend, benteke and loftus cheek are a pretty decent front 4 but who do we have who can come on, replace them and make a difference, no one. His got his work cut out and will take a couple of transfer windows to get where we need to be and the fact we've got to get players off our books before bringing players in makes it even harder. mind you I'm sure that's what freedmans been employed to do, not really sure What qualifies him for the job tho. Providing he picks our strongest 11 when available and plays to our strength the I'm happy to stick with him , if he keeps dropping milo for puncheon, playing cheek out wide and just upsetting the whole balance of the tesm so puncheon can start then he will be sacked before Christmas anyway because there's no way we will be where we should be. Out of the 3 named , Mutch is the best option...he'd be alright if called upon. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 11 Sep 17 9.44am

Originally posted by rikz

For me our biggest problem now lays with the squad providing Frank sticks with the 433, we've got sako, Lee, mutch who all offer nothing, puncheon is also just as useless and ineffective, the quicker we get these players off the books and replaced the better, we also have our second striker out on a long term injury.

Cant blame Frank for the squad but we will need to be so lucky with injuries this season, then we still need to replace ward and hennessy.

Zaha, Townsend, benteke and loftus cheek are a pretty decent front 4 but who do we have who can come on, replace them and make a difference, no one.

His got his work cut out and will take a couple of transfer windows to get where we need to be and the fact we've got to get players off our books before bringing players in makes it even harder. mind you I'm sure that's what freedmans been employed to do, not really sure What qualifies him for the job tho.

Providing he picks our strongest 11 when available and plays to our strength the I'm happy to stick with him , if he keeps dropping milo for puncheon, playing cheek out wide and just upsetting the whole balance of the tesm so puncheon can start then he will be sacked before Christmas anyway because there's no way we will be where we should be.

Out of the 3 named , Mutch is the best option...he'd be alright if called upon.

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MabbsWasKing 11 Sep 17 9.45am
Clearly FDB hasn't lost the dressing room and the players seem to have fitness and desire. The transfer window is closed so we have our squad. At Burnley the team were set up in a way that suited it. Bottom line, there is no point changing Manager as it stands, unless the team decide they don't want to play for him. Who would we get that is better anyway....we struggled to get anyone decent in the summer. The problem seems to be confidence, and with a goal, and Selhurst backing the team, that will change. With confidence and our best team and a reasonable bench we can beat anyone in this division on our day. Come on Palace!
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Clearly FDB hasn't lost the dressing room and the players seem to have fitness and desire. The transfer window is closed so we have our squad. At Burnley the team were set up in a way that suited it.

Bottom line, there is no point changing Manager as it stands, unless the team decide they don't want to play for him. Who would we get that is better anyway....we struggled to get anyone decent in the summer.

The problem seems to be confidence, and with a goal, and Selhurst backing the team, that will change. With confidence and our best team and a reasonable bench we can beat anyone in this division on our day.

Come on Palace!

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black eagle. south croydon. 11 Sep 17 9.59am
Not seen the game as i was away but have recorded it. Heard we played really well. Sacking Frank is NOT the answer. COYP.
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south croydon. 11 Sep 17 9.59am

Not seen the game as i was away but have recorded it.

Heard we played really well.

Sacking Frank is NOT the answer.

COYP.

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bexleydave Barnehurst 11 Sep 17 10.04am
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Well said, Chris Sutton: [Link] I doubt that FdB was asked to "rip everything up and basically start again with the team's tactics", and that's exactly where he went wrong and why we're pointless and goalless after four games. SP was looking for a different style of play, but he was doubtless expecting the "evolution not revolution" that de Boer had promised. Plus every truly successful manager, whatever their own personal philosophy about style and tactics, will play to the strengths of the squad they have, making changes and additions as experience, circumstances and funds allow. Hopefully de Boer is learning that lesson, but I'm not yet entirely convinced that he is. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 11 Sep 17 10.04am

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Well said, Chris Sutton:

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I doubt that FdB was asked to "rip everything up and basically start again with the team's tactics", and that's exactly where he went wrong and why we're pointless and goalless after four games. SP was looking for a different style of play, but he was doubtless expecting the "evolution not revolution" that de Boer had promised. Plus every truly successful manager, whatever their own personal philosophy about style and tactics, will play to the strengths of the squad they have, making changes and additions as experience, circumstances and funds allow. Hopefully de Boer is learning that lesson, but I'm not yet entirely convinced that he is.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Osvaldo Epsom 11 Sep 17 11.14am
We may have looked better yesterday but the big problem is that we don't have an opportunistic striker. Burnley had one (that we were after) and they got the three points even though being outplayed for long periods. Benteke cannot do it on his own, and until we get someone to partner him up front we will continue to come away without results. We are already adrift at the bottom of the table. WHU have played their first three games away, we've had three games we should have won and now we've got two Manchester games and Chelsea on the horizon, no pressure! At what point do we take alternative action over the next few weeks? Soon it will be too late and we will be relegated by Christmas. Let's be honest, we are in a mess. Confidence will be draining away. Why play Lee yesterday, absolute shocking decision, lost us another game. Throwing in youngsters at this point is for me a panic approach. It does sound stupid talking about sacking FDB so early in the season but his approach hasn't worked and it won't be long before we are 8/10 points adrift. Again, how long do we leave things as they are - time is not on our side when after four games we haven't scored a goal although we did have a few blocked on the line or hit the post! Near misses don't win games! WHY DID WE START THE SEASON WITH ONE STRIKER? MADNESS!! By the way, can you drop your captain?!!!
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Epsom 11 Sep 17 11.14am

We may have looked better yesterday but the big problem
is that we don't have an opportunistic striker. Burnley had one (that we were after) and they got the three points even though being outplayed for long periods. Benteke cannot do it on his own, and until we get someone to partner him up front we will continue to come away without results. We are already adrift at the bottom of the table. WHU have played their first three games away, we've had three games we should have won and now we've got two Manchester games and Chelsea on the horizon, no pressure! At what point do we take alternative action over the next few weeks? Soon it will be too late and we will be relegated by Christmas.
Let's be honest, we are in a mess. Confidence will be draining away. Why play Lee yesterday, absolute shocking decision, lost us another game. Throwing in youngsters at this point is for me a panic approach.
It does sound stupid talking about sacking FDB so early in the season but his approach hasn't worked and it won't be long before we are 8/10 points adrift. Again, how long do we leave things as they are - time is not on our side when after four games we haven't scored a goal although we did have a few blocked on the line or hit the post! Near misses don't win games!
WHY DID WE START THE SEASON WITH ONE STRIKER? MADNESS!!
By the way, can you drop your captain?!!!

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 11 Sep 17 11.17am
Hearing FDB has been sacked. All over twitter. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 11 Sep 17 11.17am

Hearing FDB has been sacked. All over twitter.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Petereagle Brockley 11 Sep 17 11.19am
Originally posted by dannyh Hearing FDB has been sacked. All over twitter. [Link] Seems to be the case. What a f........!
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Originally posted by dannyh

Hearing FDB has been sacked. All over twitter.

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Seems to be the case. What a f........!

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Petts Wood Eagle Petts Wood 11 Sep 17 11.19am
F365 reckon they have given him the sack. [Link] Edited by Petts Wood Eagle (11 Sep 2017 11.20am)
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F365 reckon they have given him the sack.

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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 11 Sep 17 11.21am
That's the spirit Oswaldo - look on the bright side!
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Banstead Surrey 11 Sep 17 11.21am

That's the spirit Oswaldo - look on the bright side!

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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 11 Sep 17 11.24am
Surely SP hasn't pulled the trigger after yesterdays improved performance! He will be a laughing stock - and so will CPFC ! Edited by rob1969 (11 Sep 2017 11.25am)
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Banstead Surrey 11 Sep 17 11.24am

Surely SP hasn't pulled the trigger after yesterdays improved performance! He will be a laughing stock - and so will CPFC !

Edited by rob1969 (11 Sep 2017 11.25am)

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Sep 17 11.24am
Lets hope his sacking does not mean we pay him mega bucks and that there was a clause on his performance in his contract. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Sep 17 11.24am

Lets hope his sacking does not mean we pay him mega bucks and that there was a clause on his performance in his contract.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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