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TheExpatEagle 10 Sep 17 11.44am
Originally posted by Jamesrichards8 [Link] I refuse to believe that parish didn't realize that our best spells in the prem have been playing the pulls type of football. I can't imagine he was the main advocate of De boer's appointment. I don't think it's either of their faults From what we've been told Parish was the advocate of FdB's appointment and the style of football. Do you not remember last season when Pardew said we were trying a more expansive style of football after "talks with the chairman about what direction to take". That, in my opinion, is why it took so long to sack him because Parish felt he led Pardew down that road to changing the playing style.
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10 Sep 17 11.44am

Originally posted by Jamesrichards8

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I refuse to believe that parish didn't realize that our best spells in the prem have been playing the pulls type of football. I can't imagine he was the main advocate of De boer's appointment. I don't think it's either of their faults

From what we've been told Parish was the advocate of FdB's appointment and the style of football.

Do you not remember last season when Pardew said we were trying a more expansive style of football after "talks with the chairman about what direction to take".

That, in my opinion, is why it took so long to sack him because Parish felt he led Pardew down that road to changing the playing style.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Sep 17 11.45am
Originally posted by TheExpatEagle I totally accept what you say. My point was more that they were in League 1 and in administration with a 10 point deduction when we were in the Championship. Plus they had Pardew as manager. Without going off to look, did they buy Clyne when they went into the Premier League or before? I recall it was 2012 so I guess it was just after they got promoted. He was a Nigel Adkins signing. I have a feeling they bought him after they got promoted to the PL. Might be wrong but I think the fee was around £2 Mill + a % of a future transfer. Brendan Rodgers signed him for Liverpool for £12.5 Mill.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Sep 17 11.45am

Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

I totally accept what you say. My point was more that they were in League 1 and in administration with a 10 point deduction when we were in the Championship. Plus they had Pardew as manager.

Without going off to look, did they buy Clyne when they went into the Premier League or before? I recall it was 2012 so I guess it was just after they got promoted.

He was a Nigel Adkins signing.
I have a feeling they bought him after they got promoted to the PL.
Might be wrong but I think the fee was around £2 Mill + a % of a future transfer.
Brendan Rodgers signed him for Liverpool for £12.5 Mill.

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TheExpatEagle 10 Sep 17 11.45am
Originally posted by ex hibitionist Mark Langdon, football chief journo for the Racing Post and frequently on Talksport giving the international overview, wrote in yesterday's post blaming the board - you can't pull the plug on a long term project after 270 minutes he was saying, and the real blame for the situation is at board not managerial level. A lot of is down to luck though, nobody could foresee Big Sam going, Parrish has got the right idea about relating security/stability in the prem with getting our possession stats nearer 40% than 30%, may have chosen the wrong man to implement the vision - certainly there have been glaring errors with tactics and personnel whose failures were easy to predict and they then did fail. I think De Boer should have seen 3-4-3 had to be introduced slowly not as a six week shock at all playing levels, he learnt the wrong lessons from his time at Inter and what he has to do is realise he has to learn very fast how to win games in the prem, 3-4-3 can wait, and not for too long, I'd say we just need to improve and the 'next level', a phrase which usually introduces a level down, will look after itself. Maybe, maybe not. Had Parish and Sam had a better relationship maybe Sam would have told Parish earlier? I'm not implying their relationship wasn't good but Sam has said he made his decision before the Hull game so why did he wait 8+ days to tell Parish? That's a question that needs answering.
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10 Sep 17 11.45am

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

Mark Langdon, football chief journo for the Racing Post and frequently on Talksport giving the international overview, wrote in yesterday's post blaming the board - you can't pull the plug on a long term project after 270 minutes he was saying, and the real blame for the situation is at board not managerial level. A lot of is down to luck though, nobody could foresee Big Sam going, Parrish has got the right idea about relating security/stability in the prem with getting our possession stats nearer 40% than 30%, may have chosen the wrong man to implement the vision - certainly there have been glaring errors with tactics and personnel whose failures were easy to predict and they then did fail. I think De Boer should have seen 3-4-3 had to be introduced slowly not as a six week shock at all playing levels, he learnt the wrong lessons from his time at Inter and what he has to do is realise he has to learn very fast how to win games in the prem, 3-4-3 can wait, and not for too long, I'd say we just need to improve and the 'next level', a phrase which usually introduces a level down, will look after itself.

Maybe, maybe not. Had Parish and Sam had a better relationship maybe Sam would have told Parish earlier?

I'm not implying their relationship wasn't good but Sam has said he made his decision before the Hull game so why did he wait 8+ days to tell Parish?

That's a question that needs answering.

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europalace Europe 10 Sep 17 12.20pm
Originally posted by TheExpatEagle I'm not implying their relationship wasn't good but Sam has said he made his decision before the Hull game so why did he wait 8+ days to tell Parish? That's a question that needs answering. How do you know he 'waited 8+ days to tell Parish'? Just because it was announced in the press after that time doesn't mean Parish was also told at that time. It's highly probably that Parish knew before the Hull game and started putting feelers out for a replacement well before the official announcement was made to the media. That's how business works. Edited by europalace (10 Sep 2017 12.20pm)
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

I'm not implying their relationship wasn't good but Sam has said he made his decision before the Hull game so why did he wait 8+ days to tell Parish?

That's a question that needs answering.

How do you know he 'waited 8+ days to tell Parish'? Just because it was announced in the press after that time doesn't mean Parish was also told at that time. It's highly probably that Parish knew before the Hull game and started putting feelers out for a replacement well before the official announcement was made to the media. That's how business works.

Edited by europalace (10 Sep 2017 12.20pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Sep 17 2.00pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger Not even sure how he could, considering a large part of it is his business. Nonsense from HOL'ers again. He can sell to someone who doesn't f*** around with transfers and allows the team to be prepared for the start of a season.
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Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Not even sure how he could, considering a large part of it is his business. Nonsense from HOL'ers again.

He can sell to someone who doesn't f*** around with transfers and allows the team to be prepared for the start of a season.

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Dodger Lane Merstham 10 Sep 17 2.23pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He can sell to someone who doesn't f*** around with transfers and allows the team to be prepared for the start of a season. Totally agree. A Lie travels round the world quicker than a man can put his trousers on [Link]
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Merstham 10 Sep 17 2.23pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He can sell to someone who doesn't f*** around with transfers and allows the team to be prepared for the start of a season.

Totally agree.

A Lie travels round the world quicker than a man can put his trousers on

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 10 Sep 17 2.47pm
Originally posted by europalace How do you know he 'waited 8+ days to tell Parish'? Just because it was announced in the press after that time doesn't mean Parish was also told at that time. It's highly probably that Parish knew before the Hull game and started putting feelers out for a replacement well before the official announcement was made to the media. That's how business works. Edited by europalace (10 Sep 2017 12.20pm) Because he did wait. It came as a total shock to SP when they met and he told him he was off. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Originally posted by europalace

Edited by europalace (10 Sep 2017 12.20pm)

Because he did wait. It came as a total shock to SP when they met and he told him he was off.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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CPFC/SCCC Sutton 10 Sep 17 5.59pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is Steve parish greatness unravelling ?' by Guntrisoft 7 years ago keep the club a float by saving it from extinction but fast forward until present day. He took him 6 weeks to appoint a manager that didn't suit our style of our players. Didn't back him in the transfer market with no attacking options. Whether you rated Campbell or remy last season in terms of contribution. The fact that they haven't even been replaced shows naivety. Mandanda sold over 8 weeks ago, not a single replacement found. If your FDB looking at the bench 1-0 down who do you turn to? Why name the likes of lapado and mutch and Kai Kai to a small degree if you don't think they're adequate. Even the year we had Gayle as a sub it's better than what we had to offer this season. The performance was better today, but for me parish is the issue. Anyone agree? Edited by CPFC/SCCC (10 Sep 2017 8.04pm) Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is Steve parish greatness unravelling ?' by Guntrisoft

7 years ago keep the club a float by saving it from extinction but fast forward until present day. He took him 6 weeks to appoint a manager that didn't suit our style of our players. Didn't back him in the transfer market with no attacking options. Whether you rated Campbell or remy last season in terms of contribution. The fact that they haven't even been replaced shows naivety. Mandanda sold over 8 weeks ago, not a single replacement found. If your FDB looking at the bench 1-0 down who do you turn to? Why name the likes of lapado and mutch and Kai Kai to a small degree if you don't think they're adequate. Even the year we had Gayle as a sub it's better than what we had to offer this season. The performance was better today, but for me parish is the issue.

Anyone agree?

Edited by CPFC/SCCC (10 Sep 2017 8.04pm)

Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat
When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that
He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right
And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!

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cpj Kent 10 Sep 17 6.02pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is Steve parish greatness unravelling ?' by Guntrisoft We were awful for most of last season. Surely he must have seen this, so why so long to name a replacement for Sam and why haven't we brought in adequate replacements for those who left?
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We were awful for most of last season. Surely he must have seen this, so why so long to name a replacement for Sam and why haven't we brought in adequate replacements for those who left?

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Jacey 10 Sep 17 6.09pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is Steve parish greatness unravelling ?' by Guntrisoft Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC 7 years ago keep the club a float by saving it from extinction but fast forward until present day. He took him 6 weeks to appoint a manager that didn't suit our style of our players. Didn't back him in the transfer market with no attacking options. Whether you rated Campbell or remy last season in terms of contribution. The fact that they haven't even been replaced so naivety. Mandanda sold over 8 weeks ago, not a single replacement found. If your FDB looking at the bench 1-0 down who do you turn to? Why name the likes of lapado and mutch and Kai Kai to a small degree if you don't think they're adequate. Even the year we had Gayle as a sub it's better than what we had to offer this season. The performance was better today, but for me parish is the issue. Anyone agree? Agreed,every man and his dog knew we needed at least one striker signed last window,but Parish bulked at paying minimal fee to that Everton's striker's agent and would not pay the fee for the Turkish striker over6 months. Probably, will cost us dear.
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10 Sep 17 6.09pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is Steve parish greatness unravelling ?' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

7 years ago keep the club a float by saving it from extinction but fast forward until present day. He took him 6 weeks to appoint a manager that didn't suit our style of our players. Didn't back him in the transfer market with no attacking options. Whether you rated Campbell or remy last season in terms of contribution. The fact that they haven't even been replaced so naivety. Mandanda sold over 8 weeks ago, not a single replacement found. If your FDB looking at the bench 1-0 down who do you turn to? Why name the likes of lapado and mutch and Kai Kai to a small degree if you don't think they're adequate. Even the year we had Gayle as a sub it's better than what we had to offer this season. The performance was better today, but for me parish is the issue.

Anyone agree?

Agreed,every man and his dog knew we needed at least one striker signed last window,but Parish bulked at paying minimal fee to that Everton's striker's agent and would not pay the fee for the Turkish striker over6 months.
Probably, will cost us dear.

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 10 Sep 17 6.09pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is Steve parish greatness unravelling ?' by Guntrisoft Originally posted by cpj We were awful for most of last season. Surely he must have seen this, so why so long to name a replacement for Sam and why haven't we brought in adequate replacements for those who left? I don't think that we've had managers exactly beating our door down even since the position became available when Holloway left. Think most Palace fans think that it's a lot easier to find the right type of manager than it is, then for that manager to even consider joining us. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Originally posted by cpj

We were awful for most of last season. Surely he must have seen this, so why so long to name a replacement for Sam and why haven't we brought in adequate replacements for those who left?

I don't think that we've had managers exactly beating our door down even since the position became available when Holloway left. Think most Palace fans think that it's a lot easier to find the right type of manager than it is, then for that manager to even consider joining us.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 10 Sep 17 6.13pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Is Steve parish greatness unravelling ?' by Guntrisoft Originally posted by Jacey Agreed,every man and his dog knew we needed at least one striker signed last window,but Parish bulked at paying minimal fee to that Everton's striker's agent and would not pay the fee for the Turkish striker over6 months. Probably, will cost us dear. Maybe. See Tim Cahill. Although Niasse is hardly a world beater and sometimes throwing good money after bad ain't the right option. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Originally posted by Jacey

Maybe. See Tim Cahill.

Although Niasse is hardly a world beater and sometimes throwing good money after bad ain't the right option.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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