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europalace Europe 20 Aug 17 10.07am
Originally posted by alaneagle1 Agreed it was a fluid system,and as you say more like 5311,with Townsend trying to get up top with Christian. Plus sticking Dann up front with minutes left is an old school tactic that I'm happy with. yep, Dann got the winner at Liverpool season before last and has put a few goals away in the PL. He's a good poacher late in the game, especially with his head.
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Europe 20 Aug 17 10.07am

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Agreed it was a fluid system,and as you say more like 5311,with Townsend trying to get up top with Christian.
Plus sticking Dann up front with minutes left is an old school tactic that I'm happy with.

yep, Dann got the winner at Liverpool season before last and has put a few goals away in the PL. He's a good poacher late in the game, especially with his head.

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Midlands Eagle 20 Aug 17 10.08am
Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot The fact some people are calling for FDB to be sacked after 2 games is just f***ing ridiculous.... This is a football fans forum so you should expect some stupidity
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

The fact some people are calling for FDB to be sacked after 2 games is just f***ing ridiculous....

This is a football fans forum so you should expect some stupidity

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spartakev2 Anerley 20 Aug 17 10.11am
Originally posted by Den1923 yes, it all sounds very promising, but sadly that will not save us, we only had one shot on target yesterday out of three, our passing success was just 66% and we won just 50% of tackles and possession was 28% our pass total was 275 versus Liverpool 712 so we have big gap to up our game to the standard required for this league! And yet we only lost 1 0 against Liverpool at anfield. ..must have done something right. Edited by spartakev2 (20 Aug 2017 10.25am)
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Anerley 20 Aug 17 10.11am

Originally posted by Den1923

yes, it all sounds very promising, but sadly that will not save us, we only had one shot on target yesterday out of three, our passing success was just 66% and we won just 50% of tackles and possession was 28% our pass total was 275 versus Liverpool 712 so we have big gap to up our game to the standard required for this league!

And yet we only lost 1 0 against Liverpool at anfield. ..must have done something right.

Edited by spartakev2 (20 Aug 2017 10.25am)

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 20 Aug 17 10.31am
An improvement on the Huddersfield performance, yes....although there was only one way to go after that. I think we have beaten better Liverpool teams than yesterdays. It reminded me of how we played and lost narrowly to Chelsea and Man Utd last season under Pardew. Positives to be had for sure, but individual errors at both ends costing us. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 20 Aug 17 10.31am

An improvement on the Huddersfield performance, yes....although there was only one way to go after that.

I think we have beaten better Liverpool teams than yesterdays.

It reminded me of how we played and lost narrowly to Chelsea and Man Utd last season under Pardew. Positives to be had for sure, but individual errors at both ends costing us.

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Dangermouse Hastings 20 Aug 17 11.26am
From what I've seen and heard we played just like an Alladyce side, packed the middle, sat deep and countered. So FdB can be pragmatic and play the good old English way if needed. In fact Liverpool had their best spell when we chased the game and left gaps in behind. So we can only guess what might of happened had we been open from the start. The players are getting a lot of stick as being too stupid to play any way but the Pulis/Alladyce way, which is pretty disrespectful IMO. The performance was solid and gives us something to build on, but the real test is at home. The old way hasn't worked since we've been up and the new way took a knock last weekend, but we have to find a way to win at home. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 20 Aug 17 11.26am

From what I've seen and heard we played just like an Alladyce side, packed the middle, sat deep and countered. So FdB can be pragmatic and play the good old English way if needed. In fact Liverpool had their best spell when we chased the game and left gaps in behind. So we can only guess what might of happened had we been open from the start. The players are getting a lot of stick as being too stupid to play any way but the Pulis/Alladyce way, which is pretty disrespectful IMO.
The performance was solid and gives us something to build on, but the real test is at home. The old way hasn't worked since we've been up and the new way took a knock last weekend, but we have to find a way to win at home.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Dangermouse Hastings 20 Aug 17 11.28am
Originally posted by Den1923 yes, it all sounds very promising, but sadly that will not save us, we only had one shot on target yesterday out of three, our passing success was just 66% and we won just 50% of tackles and possession was 28% our pass total was 275 versus Liverpool 712 so we have big gap to up our game to the standard required for this league! Out of interest what were the figures in last seasons win? Anyone...... We had 28% possession and 7 shots. Couldn't really find any passing stats Edited by Dangermouse (20 Aug 2017 11.34am) That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 20 Aug 17 11.28am

Originally posted by Den1923

Out of interest what were the figures in last seasons win? Anyone......
We had 28% possession and 7 shots. Couldn't really find any passing stats

Edited by Dangermouse (20 Aug 2017 11.34am)

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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NickinOX Sailing country. 20 Aug 17 11.45am
Originally posted by Croydonlad Yeah we played well We lost again we have lost our first two games We are playing a system that the players cant play We will go down if something doesn't change , preferably the manager Clearly you didn't watch yesterday's game, as you failed to notice the fact that we played very similar tactics to when SA was here. Troll. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 20 Aug 17 11.45am

Originally posted by Croydonlad

Yeah we played well
We lost again
we have lost our first two games
We are playing a system that the players cant play
We will go down if something doesn't change , preferably the manager

Clearly you didn't watch yesterday's game, as you failed to notice the fact that we played very similar tactics to when SA was here.

Troll.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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chateauferret 20 Aug 17 5.53pm
I'm definitely a bit more convinced after that. I was afraid we'd be clueless and confused against a much better side and they would tank us, or that we would try to play ticky tacky football in their own half. Now we do need to keep the ball better and create more coming forward so get well soon Wilf. However, as you say we could play the "respect the point" mentality in the three-at-the back system and we were dropping one wing back back when the other went forward to make four across the back and were reasonably comfortable reshaping ourselves like that. Low possession figures though are something that might make a manager like de Boer nervous. Allardyce was spot on about that though. It's what you do with it that matters. ============ The Ferret ============
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20 Aug 17 5.53pm

I'm definitely a bit more convinced after that. I was afraid we'd be clueless and confused against a much better side and they would tank us, or that we would try to play ticky tacky football in their own half. Now we do need to keep the ball better and create more coming forward so get well soon Wilf. However, as you say we could play the "respect the point" mentality in the three-at-the back system and we were dropping one wing back back when the other went forward to make four across the back and were reasonably comfortable reshaping ourselves like that.

Low possession figures though are something that might make a manager like de Boer nervous. Allardyce was spot on about that though. It's what you do with it that matters.

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Nobbybm Dartford 20 Aug 17 9.01pm
Originally posted by chateauferret I'm definitely a bit more convinced after that. I was afraid we'd be clueless and confused against a much better side and they would tank us, or that we would try to play ticky tacky football in their own half. Now we do need to keep the ball better and create more coming forward so get well soon Wilf. However, as you say we could play the "respect the point" mentality in the three-at-the back system and we were dropping one wing back back when the other went forward to make four across the back and were reasonably comfortable reshaping ourselves like that. Low possession figures though are something that might make a manager like de Boer nervous. Allardyce was spot on about that though. It's what you do with it that matters. FdB has said a few times that if you can't have/dominate the ball then you need to make your opponent go where you want (or something like that). A vast amount of the possession conceded was 40+ yards from our goal so, maybe, that's part of the plan for playing the bigger teams. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 20 Aug 17 9.01pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

Low possession figures though are something that might make a manager like de Boer nervous. Allardyce was spot on about that though. It's what you do with it that matters.

FdB has said a few times that if you can't have/dominate the ball then you need to make your opponent go where you want (or something like that). A vast amount of the possession conceded was 40+ yards from our goal so, maybe, that's part of the plan for playing the bigger teams.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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Den1923 20 Aug 17 10.56pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 And yet we only lost 1 0 against Liverpool at anfield. ..must have done something right. Edited by spartakev2 (20 Aug 2017 10.25am) yes, but we can lose 1-0 all season and still get relegated!
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20 Aug 17 10.56pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

And yet we only lost 1 0 against Liverpool at anfield. ..must have done something right.

Edited by spartakev2 (20 Aug 2017 10.25am)

yes, but we can lose 1-0 all season and still get relegated!

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Den1923 20 Aug 17 11.03pm
Originally posted by Dangermouse Out of interest what were the figures in last seasons win? Anyone...... We had 28% possession and 7 shots. Couldn't really find any passing stats Edited by Dangermouse (20 Aug 2017 11.34am) Last season is the past, what we can change is the future!
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20 Aug 17 11.03pm

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Out of interest what were the figures in last seasons win? Anyone......
We had 28% possession and 7 shots. Couldn't really find any passing stats

Edited by Dangermouse (20 Aug 2017 11.34am)

Last season is the past, what we can change is the future!

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DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 21 Aug 17 2.04pm
Last seasons: [Link] season before: [Link] 28/36 percent,7/3(on target) /9(4 on target) Originally posted by Dangermouse Out of interest what were the figures in last seasons win? Anyone...... We had 28% possession and 7 shots. Couldn't really find any passing stats Edited by Dangermouse (20 Aug 2017 11.34am)
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