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majorkaios Trowbridge, Wilts 26 Jul 17 7.11pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Actually, selling property and recoup8ng a % of an increase in value where planning consent is secured is quite common. They are called overage clauses. You make the buyer do all the work but both sides benefit if the clause is well drafted. Likewise, if this provision is properly drafted, why shouldn't we do ok? Say the clause doesnt bite for 3 years and he is the nuts. We get a brilliant player on an extended "loan" and get 50% of what we paid back. Who says he will continue to be that good. And how else would we secure a player who is that good and has that much experience in this league for such a young age for such a price in this crazy market? The ideal thing, of course, is to stay in this league, continue to grow, develop a well stocked academy and thus become a club that makes use of these provisions. Agreed COYP ... Adding a few solid cup runs into the bargain may help to boost revenues as well.
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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 26 Jul 17 7.41pm | |
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coulsdoneagle London 26 Jul 17 8.01pm | |
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But back clauses are particularly unfair with a set price. Ultimately these big clubs can afford to monopolise the young talent and ensure they are protected when letting them go. I think first refusal is okay. As Arsenal had with Fabregas when he went back to Chelsea, it ensures that should the player leave the club can get him but doesn't limit the potential the selling club can make, or force their hand to sell an asset that they have grown. buy back clauses are unfair but it's unlikely to change because it favours the bigger teams and that's the way this league is going.
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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 26 Jul 17 8.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Goldfiinger
Of course they can, the point is... The big clubs buy all of young players and leave a very small pool for the rest. Now they're able to buy even more knowing that can simply loan or sell them on and buy them back.. The problem is isn't that they do it the problem is the saturation causes smaller clubs to have LESS choice elsewhere. so all the big clubs have more talent than they need and all the small clubs have less. correct?
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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 26 Jul 17 8.31pm | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
But back clauses are particularly unfair with a set price. Ultimately these big clubs can afford to monopolise the young talent and ensure they are protected when letting them go. I think first refusal is okay. As Arsenal had with Fabregas when he went back to Chelsea, it ensures that should the player leave the club can get him but doesn't limit the potential the selling club can make, or force their hand to sell an asset that they have grown. buy back clauses are unfair but it's unlikely to change because it favours the bigger teams and that's the way this league is going. This is the reason the PL was invented. So that the elite in England could catch up with their continental counterparts. And boy have some of them caught up
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 26 Jul 17 9.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
so all the big clubs have more talent than they need and all the small clubs have less. correct? Yes so the big get bigger and the small are impeded by the market and haven't got the same fair opportunity to grow. The larger clubs suck up all the youth players and now instead of just loaning them out, we are about to witness the start of them selling them with clauses which mean they'll let all the other clubs give them exposure and train them, just so they can hedge there bets and not disturb their first team with players who may or may not make it. Then buy them back at a stupidly low mark up. It'll control the market far far worse than the loan system. But it seems many think now we're in the big time it matters not as long as we get in on the action. Sorry but I thought that's the type of things 'our' fans don't like. Edited by Goldfiinger (26 Jul 2017 9.37pm)
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 26 Jul 17 9.33pm | |
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I believe buy back clauses are banned in France.
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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 26 Jul 17 9.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Goldfiinger
Yes so the big get bigger and the small are impeded by the market and haven't got the same fair opportunity to grow. It's been this way for years. We've been in the PL for 5 years now but haven't really made any headway on the big teams. We've got a much better first team to show for the time we have been up there. Maybe a few tweaks to the infrastructure and a raising of our profile. That's about it though.
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 26 Jul 17 9.39pm | |
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And buy back clauses are going to make it a thousand times harder for clubs to grow.
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 26 Jul 17 9.43pm | |
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The kicker is... The clubs buying back the player don't even have to offer them first team football. I.e. They could have far better players themselves and still take them back if they can then sell them on for more...
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Dan89 Se25 26 Jul 17 9.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Goldfiinger
The kicker is... The clubs buying back the player don't even have to offer them first team football. I.e. They could have far better players themselves and still take them back if they can then sell them on for more... You really seem to be pants wetting today.
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 26 Jul 17 10.26pm | |
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lol fair point.
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