Nope. I didn't say the FBI had a dog in the game. I just said the fight was perverted at an absolutely critical time. Frustrating as later they said ah no, their mistake, nothing to see here.

Pretty much. Although in fairness, those voters would probably have been personally better off with Clinton, as would the US. But that's democracy for you, everyone gets a say, and about 75% of the countries mind is probably made up before the candidates names are even announced at the primaries.

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A few points of order:

Trump's win the electoral college wasn't big; by margin of victory it ranks 46th out of 58. [Link]

That Russia interfered in the election to help get Trump elected is not in question by anyone other than the beneficiary of such interference. All 17 US intelligence agencies agree on this. Don Jr's emails confirm this too, and they are not in dispute (except with about 50% of Trump supporters) because he released them himself.

Don Jr's emails also provide evidence of at least a willingness on behalf of the Trump campaign to work with the Kremlin-connected Russians to beat Clinton. There is also a significant amount of circumstantial evidence that Don Sr. was at least aware of what was happening.

As for his effectiveness as president, there has been a climb in the stock market for sure. However, he has failed to achieve any goals he set for himself during the campaign despite his party having control of all three branches of government. He did get to nominate a Supreme Court Justice, but Senate Republicans had to blow up hundreds of years of precedent in order to get him confirmed. The Federal government has hundreds of vacancies, many in very key positions, and his administration has been in constant turmoil as Trump himself consistently derails the carefully crafted messages of his staff.

The border wall isn't getting built and Mexico isn't paying for it anyway.

ISIS still exists despite Trump's vow to defeat them within 30 days.

Obamacare is still in place.

There is no infrastructure spending bill.

Tax reform remains an aspirational set of bullet points that fit on one, widely spaced, page.

The jobs at Ford and Carrier that Trump claims he saved from being shipped to Mexico got shipped out of the country anyway (just not to Mexico in the case of Ford).

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We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

FBI Director Comey has stated that he came out with his initial report on the - at the time completed - investigation into Clinton's handling of emails specifically because she was cruising to victory and it would be damaging to the FBI if it was reported after the election that the investigation had happened. Comey later testified that the report that the initial investigation was closed meant that he had a duty to disclose to the public that it was reopened when they found that there were campaign emails on the laptop of Anthony Sex-Pest Weiner's wife's laptop. His wife being a Clinton campaign staffer.

That second report came just 10 days before the election; Clinton's polling tanked immediately and never recovered. Trump spent the balance of the campaign screaming "emails" as loudly and as often as possible. Comey announced that there was nothing wrong with anything they found on the laptop (to do with the Clinton campaign, at least) on the Sunday night before the election when no one was paying attention and by which time the damage was done.

In Michigan, Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton by 10,704 votes. In Wisconsin, Trump’s margin over Clinton was 22,177. In Pennsylvania, Trump’s of victory was 67,416 votes.

That's 100,000 votes out of 130,000,000 that swung the result Trump's way.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

The problem for the US is that neither party really seem to give too much of a s**t about the poor, and for an even more bizarre reason, the poor also seem to not give too much of a s**t about the poor.

The truth is that you need regulation of all systems in order to achieve their functional goal. You can't just expect systems to deliver an end result, you have to tailor it to do so.

Trickle down economics has just been an excuse utilised to protect the interests of the wealthy and corporate entities from taking on their role in the production of a society.

And a society is only really as functional as its public services.

The US is the only country I can think of where people would actually vote against themselves having health care, because they always vote republican.

Which isn't to say there aren't things wrong with the affordable health care act. But it being a product of the democrats isn't one of those things.

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This is what concerns me most about Trump, is how its OK for the FBI to be open about Investigating Clinton during the election, and then cry bias when the same thing is happening to him.

He milked that for all it was worth, but can't stand the heat when its applied to him (on issues that are far more significant and potentially damning than an email server).

I think its just a case of what they can prove about links with Russia, who they can prove them against and how far the FBI are willing to go up the 'chain'.

I don't think its really about whether Russians hacked the election, that's the false flag really - The question really is the extent of links between the Trump election campaign and Russian intelligence - and how deceptive they've proven to be time and time again.

Bear in mind that the Republicans were pushing to impeach Clinton (and rightly so) for lying under oath about getting a blow job.

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