Let's forget the stats for a moment.

Are you seriously suggesting that CW is a better centre-forward than GM?

If you are then you are clueless about football.

Let me sum it up like this. It's a bloody good job we had GM's 30 league goals in 2012-13 rather than your man CW toiling away up front like the donkey he always has been and always will be.

I've not suggested anything other than, based on your stats, the 2 strikers at the same point in their career have very little to chose form apart from one scoring in the top 2 divisions and one scoring in the bottom 2.

Murray was great for us in our promotion season, a very good poacher who got us important goals but he was in his prime and you are trying to compare 2 players at very different stages of their careers and TBH I don't think the stats lie. Wickham has played 29 games for us in the Prem and scored 7 goals, Murray played the same and scored 8. Again very close. Wickham has all the assets and potential to be a very good Premiership striker, whether he does or not depends on him and his desire. You may not agree but please try to come at me with something other than 'you're clueless' as my 7 year old debates stronger.

Edited by Icepick Tony (07 Aug 2017 1.50pm)

Murray's record as a Palace player is obviously superb, but I'd say he's never had a game at this level like Wickham did when we put five past Newcastle, or when he bullied Watford in the semi final, and gave Chris Smalling nightmares in the final.

Murray has a bit more subtlety about him, and is/was a quality striker but then he's also ten years older. Wickham will continue to get better from this point.

GM's midweek performance at home to champions-to-be Man City, when they had a decent defence, eclipses anything CW has done in a Palace shirt.

The best centre-forward performance at Selhurst Park by a home player since the days of Brighty.

Plus, there has not been a better one since.