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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jun 17 4.25pm
Mentioning muslims after Manchester and London - how dare you politicise a tragedy, you RACISTS! Tower block goes up in flames - it's the fcking TORIES! Crazy, fcked up world. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 14 Jun 17 4.25pm

Mentioning muslims after Manchester and London - how dare you politicise a tragedy, you RACISTS!

Tower block goes up in flames - it's the f*cking TORIES!

Crazy, f*cked up world.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jun 17 4.28pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Mentioning muslims after Manchester and London - how dare you politicise a tragedy, you RACISTS! Tower block goes up in flames - it's the fcking TORIES! Crazy, fcked up world. Perhaps ISIS will claim responsibility, or perhaps it is one them false-flag thingies, or MI5 or Israeli plot? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 14 Jun 17 4.28pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Mentioning muslims after Manchester and London - how dare you politicise a tragedy, you RACISTS!

Tower block goes up in flames - it's the f*cking TORIES!

Crazy, f*cked up world.

Perhaps ISIS will claim responsibility, or perhaps it is one them false-flag thingies, or MI5 or Israeli plot?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 17 4.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Bloody daily mirror reporting failures of government that may have lead to deaths. Do you really have to?
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14 Jun 17 4.32pm

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Bloody daily mirror reporting failures of government that may have lead to deaths.

Do you really have to?

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Lyons550 Shirley 14 Jun 17 4.34pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I wouldn't say it was propaganda, I'd say it's holding people to account. If Barwell sat on documents pertaining to health and safety in tower blocks for however many years, then he is accountable. Although until we know the official version of how the fire started, could it have been prevented if the housing minister did his f*ing job. There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country sting themselves tonight I'd imagine. Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable* Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm) I wouldnt say I've seen anyone say that Nick...just suggesting that we wait until the cause of the fire has been established. Then (and only then) in my eyes are the political debates justified...but then the 'rabid' politicals on here simply cant wait until the FACTS are there to make a reasoned debate on...they simply revert back to mud slinging based on their own pseudo agendas regardless. It's pitiful, shameful and boring. Should it be the case that ANYONE sitting on reports is identified as a causal factor then I for one will be at the front of the Queue to demand an explanation as to why that was the case. But then I guess reasoned thinking has long gone out of the window on here...its got extremely tiresome and boringly predictable The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 14 Jun 17 4.34pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I wouldn't say it was propaganda, I'd say it's holding people to account. If Barwell sat on documents pertaining to health and safety in tower blocks for however many years, then he is accountable. Although until we know the official version of how the fire started, could it have been prevented if the housing minister did his f***ing job.

There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s***ting themselves tonight I'd imagine.

Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable

Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm)

I wouldnt say I've seen anyone say that Nick...just suggesting that we wait until the cause of the fire has been established.

Then (and only then) in my eyes are the political debates justified...but then the 'rabid' politicals on here simply cant wait until the FACTS are there to make a reasoned debate on...they simply revert back to mud slinging based on their own pseudo agendas regardless.

It's pitiful, shameful and boring.

Should it be the case that ANYONE sitting on reports is identified as a causal factor then I for one will be at the front of the Queue to demand an explanation as to why that was the case.

But then I guess reasoned thinking has long gone out of the window on here...its got extremely tiresome and boringly predictable

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 17 4.38pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I wouldn't say it was propaganda, I'd say it's holding people to account. If Barwell sat on documents pertaining to health and safety in tower blocks for however many years, then he is accountable. Although until we know the official version of how the fire started, could it have been prevented if the housing minister did his f*ing job. There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s*ting themselves tonight I'd imagine. Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm) You do realise that the Wilson government was responsible for some of the worst high rises ever built?
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14 Jun 17 4.38pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s***ting themselves tonight I'd imagine.

Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable

Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm)

You do realise that the Wilson government was responsible for some of the worst high rises ever built?

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Lyons550 Shirley 14 Jun 17 4.47pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You do realise that the Wilson government was responsible for some of the worst high rises ever built? I had also considered that, but I'm not one that would simply sling that accusation around for the sake of it...I'll leave that to the others on here to do. It would only be relevant to the structure of the building and the building regs at that time...clearly we've all moved on since then and we could go back infinitum to find a point in history to lay blame at someones door. But it doesnt make things better...it simply shows how shallow in thought some are, that they'd use a disaster to push their own agenda. Worse still allow themselves to be used by others agendas by simply dropping their click bait on here. Edited by Lyons550 (14 Jun 2017 4.49pm) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 14 Jun 17 4.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You do realise that the Wilson government was responsible for some of the worst high rises ever built?

I had also considered that, but I'm not one that would simply sling that accusation around for the sake of it...I'll leave that to the others on here to do.

It would only be relevant to the structure of the building and the building regs at that time...clearly we've all moved on since then and we could go back infinitum to find a point in history to lay blame at someones door.

But it doesnt make things better...it simply shows how shallow in thought some are, that they'd use a disaster to push their own agenda. Worse still allow themselves to be used by others agendas by simply dropping their click bait on here.

Edited by Lyons550 (14 Jun 2017 4.49pm)

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elgrande bedford 14 Jun 17 4.53pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I wouldn't say it was propaganda, I'd say it's holding people to account. If Barwell sat on documents pertaining to health and safety in tower blocks for however many years, then he is accountable. Although until we know the official version of how the fire started, could it have been prevented if the housing minister did his f*ing job. There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s*ting themselves tonight I'd imagine. Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm) I wrote a long reply to this,then my Internet failed. I'm glad it did because I would probably have got a yellow. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 14 Jun 17 4.53pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s***ting themselves tonight I'd imagine.

Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable

Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm)

I wrote a long reply to this,then my Internet failed.

I'm glad it did because I would probably have got a yellow.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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elgrande bedford 14 Jun 17 4.55pm
Had it not just had over 10 million pounds of refit..... always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 14 Jun 17 4.55pm

Had it not just had over 10 million pounds of refit.....

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jun 17 4.58pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I wouldn't say it was propaganda, I'd say it's holding people to account. If Barwell sat on documents pertaining to health and safety in tower blocks for however many years, then he is accountable. Although until we know the official version of how the fire started, could it have been prevented if the housing minister did his f*ing job. There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s*ting themselves tonight I'd imagine. Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm) It's just like when Windsor Castle burned down - civil list cuts, bloody Tories. Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Jun 2017 4.58pm) We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 14 Jun 17 4.58pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

There's thousands of tower block residents all over the country s***ting themselves tonight I'd imagine.

Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable

Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm)

It's just like when Windsor Castle burned down - civil list cuts, bloody Tories.

Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Jun 2017 4.58pm)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 14 Jun 17 5.01pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm) It's a bit unfair at this stage to finger point with any certainty. What we do know is that what happened is beyond words and consequences will happen. I doubt that the colour of who is in government makes much difference to this but time will reveal all. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2017 5.02pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jun 17 5.01pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Unfortunately, some of the undemocratic on here don't want those in charge of housing and the government to be accountable

Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2017 4.18pm)

It's a bit unfair at this stage to finger point with any certainty.

What we do know is that what happened is beyond words and consequences will happen.

I doubt that the colour of who is in government makes much difference to this but time will reveal all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2017 5.02pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Jun 17 5.09pm
I think organised crime when I see things like this. People who use corruption and low bids to win contracts, use questionable materials to maximise profit margins, cut safety, circumvent regulations, pay off inspectors etc. No amount of politics can really stop that. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 14 Jun 17 5.09pm

I think organised crime when I see things like this. People who use corruption and low bids to win contracts, use questionable materials to maximise profit margins, cut safety, circumvent regulations, pay off inspectors etc.

No amount of politics can really stop that.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stirlingsays 14 Jun 17 5.13pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think organised crime when I see things like this. People who use corruption and low bids to win contracts, use questionable materials to maximise profit margins, cut safety, circumvent regulations, pay off inspectors etc. No amount of politics can really stop that. Whatever has to change has to be done...I was traumatized just watching it and I don't consider myself a lip trembler....there would have been loads of kids in there. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jun 17 5.13pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

No amount of politics can really stop that.

Whatever has to change has to be done...I was traumatized just watching it and I don't consider myself a lip trembler....there would have been loads of kids in there.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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