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hedgehog50 Croydon 15 Feb 17 5.37pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 That's the excuse, for those who failed, its the fault of x, or someone else is to blame. The police didn't pursue it because they held those kids as being low value and trash. Just like they did with the Care Home abuse stories of the 80s, Savile in the 70s and so on. Too much work. Same with the council, and social services. Its not about multiculturalism, its about how much work those kids were. If it had been their kids, they (the police, social workers or MPs) do you think they wouldn't have done something. But kids in care, especially the ones who keep running away or otherwise cause hassle for the police and social services, they couldn't give two sts. Same as its always been. They're worse than the rapists. Because they fking enabled them to get away with it for so f**king long, and pressured those who were speaking up, to shut up. Its got nothing to do with multiculturalism, its that they saw them as trash as well. They may well have regarded the girls as 'trash', but they also failed to act because the child rapists were mainly of pakistani heritage and the police did not want to appear 'racist'. As previously posted, the Labour MP at the time admits this. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 15 Feb 17 5.37pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

That's the excuse, for those who failed, its the fault of x, or someone else is to blame.

The police didn't pursue it because they held those kids as being low value and trash. Just like they did with the Care Home abuse stories of the 80s, Savile in the 70s and so on. Too much work.

Same with the council, and social services. Its not about multiculturalism, its about how much work those kids were. If it had been their kids, they (the police, social workers or MPs) do you think they wouldn't have done something.

But kids in care, especially the ones who keep running away or otherwise cause hassle for the police and social services, they couldn't give two s**ts. Same as its always been.

They're worse than the rapists. Because they f**king enabled them to get away with it for so f**king long, and pressured those who were speaking up, to shut up.

Its got nothing to do with multiculturalism, its that they saw them as trash as well.

They may well have regarded the girls as 'trash', but they also failed to act because the child rapists were mainly of pakistani heritage and the police did not want to appear 'racist'. As previously posted, the Labour MP at the time admits this.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Feb 17 5.41pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I'm saying that a court awarded libel charges to mps who were wrongly instigated in the whole shambles. If you have a source for the interview, I'll make my own mind up rather than relying on your judgement. [Link] Worm your way out of this one Gusset.
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Originally posted by nickgusset

I'm saying that a court awarded libel charges to mps who were wrongly instigated in the whole shambles.

If you have a source for the interview, I'll make my own mind up rather than relying on your judgement.

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Worm your way out of this one Gusset.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 15 Feb 17 5.42pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I'm saying that a court awarded libel charges to mps who were wrongly instigated in the whole shambles. If you have a source for the interview, I'll make my own mind up rather than relying on your judgement. This has nothing to do with what Denis MacShane said on National Radio. Nobody has contested what he said. MacShane has not been awarded libel damages. Why can't you accept that the sitting Labour MP at the time admitted that action was not taken because they 'didn't want to rock the multi-culturalism boat'. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 15 Feb 17 5.42pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I'm saying that a court awarded libel charges to mps who were wrongly instigated in the whole shambles.

If you have a source for the interview, I'll make my own mind up rather than relying on your judgement.

This has nothing to do with what Denis MacShane said on National Radio. Nobody has contested what he said. MacShane has not been awarded libel damages. Why can't you accept that the sitting Labour MP at the time admitted that action was not taken because they 'didn't want to rock the multi-culturalism boat'.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Feb 17 6.00pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 That's the excuse, for those who failed, its the fault of x, or someone else is to blame. The police didn't pursue it because they held those kids as being low value and trash. Just like they did with the Care Home abuse stories of the 80s, Savile in the 70s and so on. Too much work. Same with the council, and social services. Its not about multiculturalism, its about how much work those kids were. If it had been their kids, they (the police, social workers or MPs) do you think they wouldn't have done something. But kids in care, especially the ones who keep running away or otherwise cause hassle for the police and social services, they couldn't give two sts. Same as its always been. They're worse than the rapists. Because they fking enabled them to get away with it for so fking long, and pressured those who were speaking up, to shut up. Its got nothing to do with multiculturalism**, its that they saw them as trash as well. That is not a credible statement. The lack of action and cover up was a result of the ethnicity of the abusers as has been widely accepted. The attitude of the abusers toward white girls in particular was also a result of attitudes within that Asian community. Let's not forget that this also just one example out of more than half a dozen in different towns. We cannot deflect from that reality by highlighting the historical lack of consideration for children in care. That was just one factor. The liberal/left would have more credibility if they stopped fudging the issue and faced the facts. This is/was a major widespread problem resulting directly from multi culture.
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Hrolf The Ganger

15 Feb 17 6.00pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

That's the excuse, for those who failed, its the fault of x, or someone else is to blame.

The police didn't pursue it because they held those kids as being low value and trash. Just like they did with the Care Home abuse stories of the 80s, Savile in the 70s and so on. Too much work.

But kids in care, especially the ones who keep running away or otherwise cause hassle for the police and social services, they couldn't give two s**ts. Same as its always been.

They're worse than the rapists. Because they f**king enabled them to get away with it for so f**king long, and pressured those who were speaking up, to shut up.

Its got nothing to do with multiculturalism, its that they saw them as trash as well.

That is not a credible statement.
The lack of action and cover up was a result of the ethnicity of the abusers as has been widely accepted. The attitude of the abusers toward white girls in particular was also a result of attitudes within that Asian community. Let's not forget that this also just one example out of more than half a dozen in different towns.
We cannot deflect from that reality by highlighting the historical lack of consideration for children in care. That was just one factor.
The liberal/left would have more credibility if they stopped fudging the issue and faced the facts. This is/was a major widespread problem resulting directly from multi culture.

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Feb 17 7.03pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted So you've taken Gussets 1 year old "probable" story as gospel have you? Mug. Its moved to Frankfurt now an old stamping ground of mine. Mass sexual assault by refugees in Frankfurt 'completely made up' The main complainants were found to be not in Germany at the time of 50 muslims storming a restaurant Police say. It appears the magazine Bild is responsible and investigating its own staff.
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Croydon 15 Feb 17 7.03pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

So you've taken Gussets 1 year old "probable" story as gospel have you?

Mug.

Its moved to Frankfurt now an old stamping ground of mine.

Mass sexual assault by refugees in Frankfurt 'completely made up'

The main complainants were found to be not in Germany at the time of 50 muslims storming a restaurant Police say.

It appears the magazine Bild is responsible and investigating its own staff.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 7.30pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 This has nothing to do with what Denis MacShane said on National Radio. Nobody has contested what he said. MacShane has not been awarded libel damages. Why can't you accept that the sitting Labour MP at the time admitted that action was not taken because they 'didn't want to rock the multi-culturalism boat'. I thought the stories were mixed. You're talking about jailed expense fiddler Denis MacShane who said he could have done more...about cousin to cousin marriages within the Muslim community. [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 7.30pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I thought the stories were mixed.

You're talking about jailed expense fiddler Denis MacShane who said he could have done more...about cousin to cousin marriages within the Muslim community.

[Link]

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 7.33pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted FFS - Gusset can't even post up fresh bullsh1t now...... For someone who doesn't engage, you don't half mention me a lot
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Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 7.33pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

FFS - Gusset can't even post up fresh bullsh1t now......

For someone who doesn't engage, you don't half mention me a lot

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Feb 17 7.37pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Its moved to Frankfurt now an old stamping ground of mine. Mass sexual assault by refugees in Frankfurt 'completely made up' The main complainants were found to be not in Germany at the time of 50 muslims storming a restaurant Police say. It appears the magazine Bild is responsible and investigating its own staff. How can we trust anyone to provide genuine information anymore? Nick talks about a post truth society but I believe that governments and their sponsors and supporters have been fudging, hiding and altering facts for years to suit their own agenda. We know the agenda of corporations and their politician friends is to flood Europe with cheap Labour, so it is highly likely that any bad news that hampers that plan will be buried. People worry about right wing propaganda and there is no doubt that it is out there, but personally, I would be more concerned with the powers that be.
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15 Feb 17 7.37pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Its moved to Frankfurt now an old stamping ground of mine.

Mass sexual assault by refugees in Frankfurt 'completely made up'

The main complainants were found to be not in Germany at the time of 50 muslims storming a restaurant Police say.

It appears the magazine Bild is responsible and investigating its own staff.

How can we trust anyone to provide genuine information anymore?

Nick talks about a post truth society but I believe that governments and their sponsors and supporters have been fudging, hiding and altering facts for years to suit their own agenda.
We know the agenda of corporations and their politician friends is to flood Europe with cheap Labour, so it is highly likely that any bad news that hampers that plan will be buried.
People worry about right wing propaganda and there is no doubt that it is out there, but personally, I would be more concerned with the powers that be.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 7.42pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger How can we trust anyone to provide genuine information anymore? Nick talks about a post truth society but I believe that governments and their sponsors and supporters have been fudging, hiding and altering facts for years to suit their own agenda. We know the agenda of corporations and their politician friends is to flood Europe with cheap Labour, so it is highly likely that any bad news that hampers that plan will be buried. People worry about right wing propaganda and there is no doubt that it is out there, but personally, I would be more concerned with the powers that be. [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 7.42pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How can we trust anyone to provide genuine information anymore?

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Feb 17 7.45pm
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] And it's taken them nearly two months to come up with this statement. That makes me suspicious.
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15 Feb 17 7.45pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

[Link]

And it's taken them nearly two months to come up with this statement.
That makes me suspicious.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 15 Feb 17 8.02pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I thought the stories were mixed. You're talking about jailed expense fiddler Denis MacShane who said he could have done more...about cousin to cousin marriages within the Muslim community. [Link] You keep trying to get away from the most significant thing that he said about the massive amount of child abuse in Rotherham: "“there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat, if I may put it like that. Perhaps, yes, as a true Guardian reader and liberal Leftie, I suppose I didn’t want to raise that too hard.” We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 15 Feb 17 8.02pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I thought the stories were mixed.

You're talking about jailed expense fiddler Denis MacShane who said he could have done more...about cousin to cousin marriages within the Muslim community.

[Link]

You keep trying to get away from the most significant thing that he said about the massive amount of child abuse in Rotherham: "“there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat, if I may put it like that. Perhaps, yes, as a true Guardian reader and liberal Leftie, I suppose I didn’t want to raise that too hard.”

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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johnfirewall 15 Feb 17 8.10pm
People will believe what they want. Like someone being attacked by one group precluding someone else being attacked by another. Or that this was the cause of Brexit, which was subsequently the cause of racist attacks by whites. Why not bring it full circle and use this hypothesis to prove that only Europeans can commit such an offence. Sounds like a great evidence in support of Brexit actually.
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15 Feb 17 8.10pm

People will believe what they want. Like someone being attacked by one group precluding someone else being attacked by another. Or that this was the cause of Brexit, which was subsequently the cause of racist attacks by whites. Why not bring it full circle and use this hypothesis to prove that only Europeans can commit such an offence. Sounds like a great evidence in support of Brexit actually.

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