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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 15 Jan 17 12.21pm | |
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Actually it's hard to imagine any Premier League club willing to employ Pardew. While it's fair to say that one point from 4 games under SA is a poor return, he has one hell of a job on his hands. The squad lacks the sort of collective character that will survive a relegation battle. We have no midfield ' enforcer ' , and nobody up front that can actually hold the ball up. As a consequence the back 4 look shot to pieces. Allardyce was brought in to keep us up, but I wonder if there was a school of thought that said he is also someone that could mount a promotion challenge next season were the worst to happen....
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davidpercival Croydon 15 Jan 17 2.22pm | |
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The fact is that with Pardew it always looked as though Palace were about to score (and did on many occasions). When he left I think our goal difference was -4, now it is -10, with only two goals scored from five matches.
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Salford eagle 15 Jan 17 2.50pm | |
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For the people who wanted Pardew to stay please see below. He has bred failure into the club and it will be a major job to rebuild the mess he has left. Under Pardew results were terrible for a year. Took us to a cup final granted but then dropped puncheon for a player that had been out injured for Months. He failed to address the issue of weak areas in the squad, left back, goal keeper, attacking midfielder. He then sold our defensive midfielder and only height in midfield and replaced him with the desperate last minute signing of Flamini (who he failed to play). Bought a replacement left winger who only wants to play on the right! Happy to make statements such as "clean sheets are not his priority" or "we have directors at club who know nothing about the game". Only decided to do defensive training when the team came to him and said that they needed to do it. Following concentration on the defensive side we concede 5 goals to the bottom team. General poor record of transfers, having control of the biggest transfer budget this club has ever seen. The list goes on and on!!! Yet people still think he was the man to turn it around. If I was woeful in my job for a year I'd hate to think of the mess I would have left behind for the next mug to pick up! It's going to be a battle now!
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Den1923 15 Jan 17 4.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Salford eagle
For the people who wanted Pardew to stay please see below. He has bred failure into the club and it will be a major job to rebuild the mess he has left. Under Pardew results were terrible for a year. Took us to a cup final granted but then dropped puncheon for a player that had been out injured for Months. He failed to address the issue of weak areas in the squad, left back, goal keeper, attacking midfielder. He then sold our defensive midfielder and only height in midfield and replaced him with the desperate last minute signing of Flamini (who he failed to play). Bought a replacement left winger who only wants to play on the right! Happy to make statements such as "clean sheets are not his priority" or "we have directors at club who know nothing about the game". Only decided to do defensive training when the team came to him and said that they needed to do it. Following concentration on the defensive side we concede 5 goals to the bottom team. General poor record of transfers, having control of the biggest transfer budget this club has ever seen. The list goes on and on!!! Yet people still think he was the man to turn it around. If I was woeful in my job for a year I'd hate to think of the mess I would have left behind for the next mug to pick up! It's going to be a battle now! Well said and presented. Pardew legacy for this club is that he has almost wrecked it single handed, he has invested in the worst bunch of misfits who were not wanted at their previous clubs, because basically they were not good enough or were lazy, he has destroyed a club with a good defence to one now that panics every time the ball in sent in to the penalty area, we have no on field leadership, he should have been fired at the end of last season but SP judgement was clouded by a trip to Wembley. I'm if SP acted when he should have we would be comfortable mid table by now instead of being in the mire!
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Mo Sizlak 15 Jan 17 4.21pm | |
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Bring back Pardew?
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Harpo Oxfordshire 15 Jan 17 9.09pm | |
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Interestingly... Pardew = Warped
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Jacey 15 Jan 17 9.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Salford eagle
For the people who wanted Pardew to stay please see below. He has bred failure into the club and it will be a major job to rebuild the mess he has left. Under Pardew results were terrible for a year. Took us to a cup final granted but then dropped puncheon for a player that had been out injured for Months. He failed to address the issue of weak areas in the squad, left back, goal keeper, attacking midfielder. He then sold our defensive midfielder and only height in midfield and replaced him with the desperate last minute signing of Flamini (who he failed to play). Bought a replacement left winger who only wants to play on the right! Happy to make statements such as "clean sheets are not his priority" or "we have directors at club who know nothing about the game". Only decided to do defensive training when the team came to him and said that they needed to do it. Following concentration on the defensive side we concede 5 goals to the bottom team. General poor record of transfers, having control of the biggest transfer budget this club has ever seen. The list goes on and on!!! Yet people still think he was the man to turn it around. If I was woeful in my job for a year I'd hate to think of the mess I would have left behind for the next mug to pick up! It's going to be a battle now! Very well said and I totally agree.
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DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 15 Jan 17 9.25pm | |
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In terms of spirit and entertainment it was better under Pardew..... Originally posted by fed up eagle
Well it took a while for Sam to turn it round at Sunderland but he did. Fans don't seem to realise what a mess we're in. We went the second half of last season only winning two league games and started this season with our defence in total disarray. This is Pardew's legacy I'm afraid. Today's result and performance was dis-heartening but was it really any better under Pardew? Also apportion some blame to the lame pricks on the pitch.
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Deabo2030 Ipswich. Suffolk 15 Jan 17 9.29pm | |
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Originally posted by jthomas91
You can't seriously be pointing the finger at Sam when he's had less than 4 weeks to work with the players. This is a f***ing deep hole of Pardew's making. Let's see where we are at the end of Feb after some 'winnable' games and new signings.... Forever the optimist He said in his post match interview that he came in late (December) unlike Sunderland there he took over in November, and hasn't had the chance to mould the team.
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Philombardo Tunbridge Wells 15 Jan 17 10.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Salford eagle
For the people who wanted Pardew to stay please see below. He has bred failure into the club and it will be a major job to rebuild the mess he has left. Under Pardew results were terrible for a year. Took us to a cup final granted but then dropped puncheon for a player that had been out injured for Months. He failed to address the issue of weak areas in the squad, left back, goal keeper, attacking midfielder. He then sold our defensive midfielder and only height in midfield and replaced him with the desperate last minute signing of Flamini (who he failed to play). Bought a replacement left winger who only wants to play on the right! Happy to make statements such as "clean sheets are not his priority" or "we have directors at club who know nothing about the game". Only decided to do defensive training when the team came to him and said that they needed to do it. Following concentration on the defensive side we concede 5 goals to the bottom team. General poor record of transfers, having control of the biggest transfer budget this club has ever seen. The list goes on and on!!! Yet people still think he was the man to turn it around. If I was woeful in my job for a year I'd hate to think of the mess I would have left behind for the next mug to pick up! It's going to be a battle now! An alternative view: Pardew was unlucky that Papa got injured. He never got the chance to play Remy Puncheon is not good enough for our team. Wilf was happy to play for him. We scored loads of goals. as for your beloved Sam: Known crook. Nobody else wanted to employ him. Scummy Northerner. Can't chew gum with his mouth closed. Can't motivate the team. Apparently can't be blamed because it's all someone else's fault. Perhaps we will be allowed to blame him after our second year in the Championship? Yeah, I know I'm an idiot, ready to accept abuse and face slaps, but what the hell, I really don't like Sam!
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 15 Jan 17 11.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Philombardo
An alternative view: Pardew was unlucky that Papa got injured. He never got the chance to play Remy Wilf was happy to play for him. We scored loads of goals. as for your beloved Sam: Known crook. Nobody else wanted to employ him. Scummy Northerner. Can't chew gum with his mouth closed. Can't motivate the team. Apparently can't be blamed because it's all someone else's fault. Perhaps we will be allowed to blame him after our second year in the Championship? Yeah, I know I'm an idiot, ready to accept abuse and face slaps, but what the hell, I really don't like Sam! Apart from the bold, I agree.
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Melbourne Eagle Melbourne 15 Jan 17 11.08pm | |
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Apart from results (obviously), I also judge managers as to whether they improve individual players. Apart from Wilf, I can't think of a single player Pardew improved either those he inherited or bought. Most went backwards......... Really, really wanted us to succeed with Pardew, but enough was enough in the end.
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