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VKR1888 London 20 Dec 16 4.36pm | |
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Stopped reading at the Gayle part. Never good enough at this level. Trying to use that as part of the argument renders the rest not worthy of reading!
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bexleydave Barnehurst 20 Dec 16 4.46pm | |
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Originally posted by VKR1888
Stopped reading at the Gayle part. Never good enough at this level. Trying to use that as part of the argument renders the rest not worthy of reading!
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ThatPetrolRelation Ottawa 20 Dec 16 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
What would you have wanted him to do? What did he need to do to get recognition? Well he seemed to have a pattern of scoring as a sub, then getting a start and doing zilch. So back to the bench he would go. He didn't cut it as a lone striker, so under Pulis, Warnock, Pardew he sat. He also seemed to get injured a lot (but then what Palace player doesn't I guess). I remember him scoring piles in cup games against weak sides. I like the guy, and am not surprised he's doing well against much weaker competition. But like Murray, in the Prem, when there was a lot less space, and faster, bigger CBs, he had a much harder time affecting the game. His stats are good, but they are small sample size.
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mattteo 20 Dec 16 5.12pm | |
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Originally posted by ThatPetrolRelation
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mattteo 20 Dec 16 5.14pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Bite me, Dave. You're the troll. You speak of me like you're some kind of Crystal Palace "born on the stadium" fan
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ThatPetrolRelation Ottawa 20 Dec 16 8.37pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Well managers need strikers who can play whole games. He has good numbers per minute, but sorry, I'd take everyone on your list before Gayle. I wanted him to do well last season, but he didn't. 3 Prem goals in 16. I know he was injured a lot, but the narrative on why we sucked second half of last season was our strikers could not score. Season before that 5 goals in 29 games. Forgive me for not being excited --MacArthur already has 5 this year. Something like 5 Palace managers ran the rule over him and decided that while he was a great natural goal scorer, the rest of his game was wanting. All the best to him in the Championship.
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Elpis In a pub 20 Dec 16 9.15pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Ward and Souare haven't had 2 crosses turned into assists in a PL season SINCE EVER either!! Whatever Kelly's history isn't the point ,where we are now is what matters and that is that Kelly is used as a full back and he is better than anything else at the club bar Ward of current fit players .
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mattteo 21 Dec 16 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by ThatPetrolRelation
Well managers need strikers who can play whole games. He has good numbers per minute, but sorry, I'd take everyone on your list before Gayle. I wanted him to do well last season, but he didn't. 3 Prem goals in 16. I know he was injured a lot, but the narrative on why we sucked second half of last season was our strikers could not score. Season before that 5 goals in 29 games. Forgive me for not being excited --MacArthur already has 5 this year. Something like 5 Palace managers ran the rule over him and decided that while he was a great natural goal scorer, the rest of his game was wanting. All the best to him in the Championship.
Gayle was similar to Chicharito and Wellbeck a t United. He seems to have played many games. But, in truth, the manager only sent him in a few minutes. Therefore, what do we count? Keeping in mind ONLY THE MINUTES, Gayle was awesome for a mid table team like Palace. Yet, Utd's manager never made him a starter. Did he not cement himself? Was he not good enough? No. He was and beyond. It's just that the manager insisted with someone else. His faith was given to another player. Unjustified, unfair, but managers do that. Bad managers. And there is a plethora of them. And Gayle's and Chicharito's styles are very similar: hard working, kind of average height strikers, very fast, not amazingly technically but all heart. Loosing Gayle wasn't Palace's only mistake in the last seasons. There were more though: 1. Puncheon was a great player 2-6 years ago, he was a contender for the England shirt. He should have been selected the entire 2014/25 campaign. Do you know what position Puncheon played when he was that good? He was a winger. Either on the left or on the right. Puncheon stats:
2. Still, Crystal has 3 left footed wingers: Townsend, Puncheon and Sakho. I like all 3 of them, but Townsend's pace is something special. Only Puncheon is technically gifted enough to play as inverted winger. 3. There's the fullback issue. Honestly, the best thing right now would be to use Lee as right back in the matches against low half sides, while Ward could be used in matches vs top 6 teams. On the left, keep one of Souare (sell him while he still has value, I'm not impressed by him) or Fryers and get an offensive left back, fast!!
Because I understand this game, I know things other people don't, I can see them in advance. Now I'm rambling, but if you want or don't want to believe me, it's up to you.
Edited by mattteo (21 Dec 2016 10.29am)
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OldFella London 21 Dec 16 10.36am | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Gayle was similar to Chicharito and Wellbeck a t United. He seems to have played many games. But, in truth, the manager only sent him in a few minutes. Therefore, what do we count? Keeping in mind ONLY THE MINUTES, Gayle was awesome for a mid table team like Palace. Yet, Utd's manager never made him a starter. Did he not cement himself? Was he not good enough? No. He was and beyond. It's just that the manager insisted with someone else. His faith was given to another player. Unjustified, unfair, but managers do that. Bad managers. And there is a plethora of them. And Gayle's and Chicharito's styles are very similar: hard working, kind of average height strikers, very fast, not amazingly technically but all heart. Loosing Gayle wasn't Palace's only mistake in the last seasons. There were more though: 1. Puncheon was a great player 2-6 years ago, he was a contender for the England shirt. He should have been selected the entire 2014/25 campaign. Do you know what position Puncheon played when he was that good? He was a winger. Either on the left or on the right. Puncheon stats:
2. Still, Crystal has 3 left footed wingers: Townsend, Puncheon and Sakho. I like all 3 of them, but Townsend's pace is something special. Only Puncheon is technically gifted enough to play as inverted winger. 3. There's the fullback issue. Honestly, the best thing right now would be to use Lee as right back in the matches against low half sides, while Ward could be used in matches vs top 6 teams. On the left, keep one of Souare (sell him while he still has value, I'm not impressed by him) or Fryers and get an offensive left back, fast!!
Because I understand this game, I know things other people don't, I can see them in advance. Now I'm rambling, but if you want or don't want to believe me, it's up to you.
Edited by mattteo (21 Dec 2016 10.29am) What a plonker you really are, Rodney...
Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it.. |
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spartakev2 Anerley 21 Dec 16 12.04pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Gayle was similar to Chicharito and Wellbeck a t United. He seems to have played many games. But, in truth, the manager only sent him in a few minutes. Therefore, what do we count? Keeping in mind ONLY THE MINUTES, Gayle was awesome for a mid table team like Palace. Yet, Utd's manager never made him a starter. Did he not cement himself? Was he not good enough? No. He was and beyond. It's just that the manager insisted with someone else. His faith was given to another player. Unjustified, unfair, but managers do that. Bad managers. And there is a plethora of them. And Gayle's and Chicharito's styles are very similar: hard working, kind of average height strikers, very fast, not amazingly technically but all heart. Loosing Gayle wasn't Palace's only mistake in the last seasons. There were more though: 1. Puncheon was a great player 2-6 years ago, he was a contender for the England shirt. He should have been selected the entire 2014/25 campaign. Do you know what position Puncheon played when he was that good? He was a winger. Either on the left or on the right. Puncheon stats:
2. Still, Crystal has 3 left footed wingers: Townsend, Puncheon and Sakho. I like all 3 of them, but Townsend's pace is something special. Only Puncheon is technically gifted enough to play as inverted winger. 3. There's the fullback issue. Honestly, the best thing right now would be to use Lee as right back in the matches against low half sides, while Ward could be used in matches vs top 6 teams. On the left, keep one of Souare (sell him while he still has value, I'm not impressed by him) or Fryers and get an offensive left back, fast!!
Because I understand this game, I know things other people don't, I can see them in advance. Now I'm rambling, but if you want or don't want to believe me, it's up to you.
Edited by mattteo (21 Dec 2016 10.29am) Ha ha ha, this is a windup, right?
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I'mPalace Till I Die 21 Dec 16 1.36pm | |
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Is it not obvious that mattteo (matt the troll) is a bitter Newcastle fan with an agenda. Thinks Pardew is rubbish, loved a former Newcastle player Townsend and has a strange man crush obsession with Gayle because he's banging in goals in the lower league where he has found his level
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NickinOX Sailing country. 21 Dec 16 1.38pm | |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
Ha ha ha, this is a windup, right? Either that, or he's living in his Gran's cellar after his parents kicked him out.
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