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Stuk Top half 30 Nov 16 3.42pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'm sure that southern have said guards would be used in other roles on the train. If the unions were only worried about people keeping their jobs, they would be OK with it. But it is a health and safety issue which is why action is being taken. To the usual suspects have come out with their anti union guff, I suggest they carry one of these... Stop talking bollocks. They have been told they'll move to other roles but they're striking as they know people won't be kept, or new people re-employed, in a needless job forever. Eventually the number of jobs will reduce, like they will in every sector of work. I suggest you stop thinking unions have done anything for everyone.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 3.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Stop talking bollocks. They have been told they'll move to other roles but they're striking as they know people won't be kept, or new people re-employed, in a needless job forever. Eventually the number of jobs will reduce, like they will in every sector of work. I suggest you stop thinking unions have done anything for everyone.
28 Nov 2016
30+years of anti union press has certainly had the desired effect.
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Stuk Top half 30 Nov 16 4.16pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
28 Nov 2016
30+years of anti union press has certainly had the desired effect. Driver only operation is used far and wide and is perfectly safe. You couldn't have found a less objective source for your argument either. Read what I wrote. They might have done something for you, but they haven't done anything for everyone. The majority of the working population look after themselves, and that number goes up every single year.
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nobody sussex 30 Nov 16 4.35pm | |
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This dispute is all about one odious little Jock from the RMT trying to be a big time Charlie. On a weekly basis he gets on the telly spouting about Safety when as already stated before driver operated doors is widespread and perfectly safe. I am afraid Mr Gussett that jumping to the defence of any Left wing or union cause you are only doing yourself a disservice when all the facts point to political trouble making. And please never use anything from ASLEF in a reasoned debate !
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 5.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Driver only operation is used far and wide and is perfectly safe. You couldn't have found a less objective source for your argument either. Read what I wrote. They might have done something for you, but they haven't done anything for everyone. The majority of the working population look after themselves, and that number goes up every single year. There are many victories that unions have won that benefit everyone.
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Stuk Top half 30 Nov 16 5.22pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There are many victories that unions have won that benefit everyone. Could you imagine how different things would be had there not been unions. I suggest you watch the video on this page [Link] You, perhaps. Everyone, no chance. Yes, hardly at all. Not in a million years.
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steeleye20 Croydon 30 Nov 16 5.34pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
28 Nov 2016
30+years of anti union press has certainly had the desired effect. People are not aware that unions are settling disputes and avoiding strikes all the time.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 5.36pm | |
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Double post. Edited by nickgusset (30 Nov 2016 5.39pm)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 5.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You, perhaps. Everyone, no chance. Yes, hardly at all. Not in a million years. 1. Anyone who has ever had paid holiday can thank unions. 2. I beg to differ. 3. What are you scared of?
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nobody sussex 30 Nov 16 5.52pm | |
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I have just watched your TUC video and I am afraid that is 4.33 minutes of my life that I won't ever get back. Unions nowdays are only of relevance in the public sector where the can flex their muscles against Hospitals, Schools and the public in general. If they attempted their bullying tactics and the commercial sector they either lose or the company goes out of business and everyone looses their jobs. Just for the record in the past I was a member of a trade union and even voted labour. Now the sight of Len Mcklusky Jeremy et al just depresses me
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steeleye20 Croydon 30 Nov 16 6.19pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There are many victories that unions have won that benefit everyone.
I think a lot of people on watching this video have no idea that unions gave them these rights comes as quite a surprise to me its only 5 mins. the image of trade unions is out of date.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 6.30pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I think a lot of people on watching this video have no idea that unions gave them these rights comes as quite a surprise to me its only 5 mins. the image of trade unions is out of date. correction, the image of trade unions, as put forward by the media, is out of date.
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