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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Nov 16 3.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Mad4palace
Frank De Boer Have read a lot about him and his tactics both at International and club level.I had a detailed and lengthy discussion with someone about Bielsa when I was last in Spain.
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MichaelCPFC Darlington, Up Norf! 08 Nov 16 3.44pm | |
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This thread highlights the biggest problem for me. Pardew, in my opinion is never going to work going forward. He has had a good run at the job now and has proved I think that he has taken us as far as he ever will. The first season was great and post Warnock was exactly what we needed but I think a combo of last years cup run and his history as a former player has given too many people rose tinted glasses. To me Pardew is too slow to react in games and constantly makes poor subs (Liverpool at home last season being the prime example!) He seems to have a history of bad runs of results. It seems like the squad know as soon as we lose one we will go on to lose 5/6 in a row. The squad is paper thin and we seem to have bigger problems injury wise under him than we ever have done. Questions have to be asked about what is going on with the fitness coaches and in training. All of this is without mentioning his god like ego he takes everywhere! however, despite all this of this, is replacing Pards really the answer? The out of work managers don't exactly excite anyone and in many cases they are worse options. Even with money we are unlikely to attract a Mancini and questions have got to be asked whether he would really work at a club like ours? Unless we can go and find a relatively unknown (at the time) manager like Soton did with Pochettino. Maybe it is a case of better the devil you know?
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Nov 16 3.55pm | |
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Originally posted by MichaelCPFC
This thread highlights the biggest problem for me. Pardew, in my opinion is never going to work going forward. He has had a good run at the job now and has proved I think that he has taken us as far as he ever will. The first season was great and post Warnock was exactly what we needed but I think a combo of last years cup run and his history as a former player has given too many people rose tinted glasses. To me Pardew is too slow to react in games and constantly makes poor subs (Liverpool at home last season being the prime example!) He seems to have a history of bad runs of results. It seems like the squad know as soon as we lose one we will go on to lose 5/6 in a row. The squad is paper thin and we seem to have bigger problems injury wise under him than we ever have done. Questions have to be asked about what is going on with the fitness coaches and in training. All of this is without mentioning his god like ego he takes everywhere! however, despite all this of this, is replacing Pards really the answer? The out of work managers don't exactly excite anyone and in many cases they are worse options. Even with money we are unlikely to attract a Mancini and questions have got to be asked whether he would really work at a club like ours? Unless we can go and find a relatively unknown (at the time) manager like Soton did with Pochettino. Maybe it is a case of better the devil you know? Lots of people were totally perplexed when Pochettino was appointed manager of Southampton. They had a manager (Adkins) who had got them 2 consecutive promotions, from Div 1 to PL and they were 15th in PL after 22 games when he was axed and replaced by someone who had just left a team by mutual consent (Espanyol) who were bottom of La Liga, the only team he had managed. Edited by Willo (08 Nov 2016 4.00pm)
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kennys boots 79 Keston 08 Nov 16 4.02pm | |
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People like Mancini,Hodgson,Neville are out of work for a reason. They're not very good.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Nov 16 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by kennys boots 79
People like Mancini,Hodgson,Neville are out of work for a reason. They're not very good. Mancini won 'Serie A' with Inter Milan 3 times and the cup twice with them. He won the cup at Fiorentina, Lazio and Galatasary.Won the PL at Man C and the FA Cup. Hodgson has won the league multiple times in both Sweden and Denmark and is vastly experienced having managed many clubs and has experience of International football.
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elgrande bedford 08 Nov 16 4.20pm | |
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If and it's a big if,,,we are gonna change manager,Gus Hiddink for me.
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paperhat croydon 08 Nov 16 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Mancini won 'Serie A' with Inter Milan 3 times and the cup twice with them. He won the cup at Fiorentina, Lazio and Galatasary.Won the PL at Man C and the FA Cup. Hodgson has won the league multiple times in both Sweden and Denmark and is vastly experienced having managed many clubs and has experience of International football. and yet literally did not have a scooby when he was the England manager, not a clue.
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KAOS In a tree 08 Nov 16 4.27pm | |
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Originally posted by brides
I know I will get shot down, but I would love to see Glen Hoddle come in, great experience and hungry to return Great post & suggestion! Would love that if we were to ever pull it off! Great manager & tactician ... one of the best! Simple
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Nov 16 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by paperhat
and yet literally did not have a scooby when he was the England manager, not a clue. Bit harsh, given that he only lost 8 out of 56 games as England manager.But I suppose he will always be tainted by the Iceland game.
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Mad4palace 08 Nov 16 4.54pm | |
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Originally posted by kennys boots 79
People like Mancini,Hodgson,Neville are out of work for a reason. They're not very good. Pretty sure Neville said it himself that he wouldn't manage again. Disagree about Mancini and Hodgson, both are decent. You can't say that Mancini winning Manchester City's first title in 40 something years isn't a good manager, he had the funds sure but so have a lot of others who haven't had success. Hodgson has been good at Fulham and West Brom in recent years, both clubs similarly sized to where we are now and I think Pardew would have faired far worse if he had been England manager.
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paperhat croydon 08 Nov 16 5.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Bit harsh, given that he only lost 8 out of 56 games as England manager.But I suppose he will always be tainted by the Iceland game. any half decent manager would/should have strolled our qualifiers in the World and Euro cups, it boils down yet again to HOW we got to where we got and what happened when we played at those tournies. We were pretty much transparent at both of the last two big tournaments and fizzled out like a damp firework. Look at how England Internationals are now looked upon, no one is at all interested in watching them because we all know whats coming, 11 highly paid half hearted prima donnas, too scared/lazy to put in a shift and do the job. Unfortunately, the manager will always take the stick for it as they are the top of the tree. A decent, hard manager gets his players playing with passion, pride and effort. Don't turn up with that, don't play then, simples. Hodgson didnt have that edge to his box of tricks and suffered for it.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 08 Nov 16 5.06pm | |
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Hoddle is a horrifically bad suggestion. Out-dated and out of touch. There's a reason he has been out of work since his woeful spell at Wolves. Not a horrible guy - despite some very questionable beliefs - and a great footballer. But should not be considered for any football job at a decent level. And certainly not at our club. There are some foreign managers - relative unknowns - who are doing well but it is a massive risk. Gasperini at Atalanta for example. Sacristán at Sociedad, Favre at Nice, and Kombouaré at Guingamp. Who knows how they would adjust though.
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