I too think that the word "slate" is probably harsh.
I am not a Pardew lover at all and I think that long term he will cost us money without achieving much - yes I know we got to an FA Cup final but we lost and if he had anything about him he would have called the players over after we scored and told them what to do in the lst 8 minutes instead of doing a stupid dance!
We have to see what happens this season but he has some good players at the club now and he needs to make it work - there are no excuses in my opinion.
We should be able to achieve at least 50 points this season with our current squad but already we have dropped points at home against West Brom, Bournemouth and West Ham - we got 1 point from those three games - I expected 6 minimum.
We don't look like scoring unless it is through Benteke (yes - I know Stoke - but they were truly awful that day)and he alone will not score the goals we need.
We ball watch, we don't mark closely enough, we are not aggressive enough, we have no real Leader on the field - the list goes on.
AP needs to sharpen up and get Palace back to a team who fights when things aren't going so well - I just don't see that Palace spirit anymore and in my opinion there is only one man responsible for that I'm afraid!
I love Palace - I have supported them for over 50 years and just because I don't like the Manager will not stop me supporting them and wanting us to win every game.
I hope he proves me ridiculously wrong!

Edited by The Dolphin (24 Oct 2016 8.34am)

What do you think will happen in the next couple of years then to change this?

I think this forum could be the best forum ever for neutral supporters to come and have a read of. Gawd bless you all.

I only added modicum because I included Bournemouth. Your nit-picking hyperbolic response is more common place. I hope you, Snow White and the other dwarves get to laugh at this post too.

i agree with a lot of the sentiment on here from both sides.

I can see where the OP is coming from.... it doesn't take much for us to slip back in form does it?

I want to know why we don't "press" teams? Okazaki was closing us down like his life depended on it, and Ward let him go to score their 2nd. Where was our urgency, fight or spirit that Okazaki showed?

I also agree with the rest in that now is not the time to "slate" Pardew. We would have benefited on Saturday if Dann and Puncheon played, but even so Leicester City away is a fixture we traditionally lose 2-0. As it was we dominated the first half hour and didn't turn this into goals.... it's not Pardew's fault Benteke didn't score with that header or last week's penalty is it?

I expect we will lose again on Saturday v Liverpool according to recent form, but hope we don't.

Pardew and Parrish are slowly improving the club in my opinion, and we have to be patient, but it doesn't hurt to have a discussion about our progress every now and then.

I can have some sympathy with the frustration, as one minute we are quality and the next very poor.

However, that said, this is our 4th full season in the top flight. Look at the other teams who have been around that long: West Brom, Sunderland, Swansea, Southampton, West Ham and Leicester. Now three of those had very good seasons, two of them were anomalous and the other because they are a very well run club.

Given that, is expecting to finish top 10 in a league with the old big 4 plus Man City, Spurs and Leicester that realistic when you also have teams like Southampton and Everton?

Change doesn't happen over night (99% of the time) and of it does, that can be very detrimental (see: QPR, Cardiff, ManUre, Spurs back in the day..).

Slating Pardew isn't the answer when we've lost a bad game in shocking rain and another versus the champions of England.

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