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IMpalace London 13 Sep 16 9.27am | |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
This is the major problem when judging this position that people get wrong. It doesn't matter about who is a better a footballer in the DM role imo. It's nice if you find one that can play a bit as well of course. What really counts is effectiveness in this position. Something that Jedi had in spades was effectiveness. Do I feel that Cabaye is as effect as a DM? Not really. Rather than go with feeling probably best to go with stats: 5th most interceptions in the league last year (3rd highest for a midfielder). I think his biggest issue is people expect him to do everything including score goals and get assists, which isn't his job. Everyday I see someone on this forum say we should play him behind the striker which is absolutely not his position. He's class, and we are a trillion times better keeping the ball when he's on the pitch. Add that to the stat above and is a no brainer as to whether we are better with or without him. Edited by IMpalace (13 Sep 2016 9.30am)
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DivingIsNotGood se25 13 Sep 16 10.39am | |
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Originally posted by IMpalace
Rather than go with feeling probably best to go with stats: 5th most interceptions in the league last year (3rd highest for a midfielder). I think his biggest issue is people expect him to do everything including score goals and get assists, which isn't his job. Everyday I see someone on this forum say we should play him behind the striker which is absolutely not his position. He's class, and we are a trillion times better keeping the ball when he's on the pitch. Add that to the stat above and is a no brainer as to whether we are better with or without him. Edited by IMpalace (13 Sep 2016 9.30am) can you find a stat on how many dead ball, free kicks, corners and so on he's flunked?
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npn Crowborough 13 Sep 16 10.43am | |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
can you find a stat on how many dead ball, free kicks, corners and so on he's flunked? Surely the answer to that one is to relieve him of dead ball duty if, indeed, there is anyone better? I'd say he should certainly be in the side, but let's leave him doing what he's best at.
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IMpalace London 13 Sep 16 10.46am | |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
can you find a stat on how many dead ball, free kicks, corners and so on he's flunked? If there is anyone better at set pieces then Pardew should have them take them e.g. penalties, where Benteke has missed 2 in 9, Cabaye has missed 2 in 6 (in the league, don't have cup stats) Edited by IMpalace (13 Sep 2016 10.49am)
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Dan89 Se25 15 Sep 16 11.08am | |
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On set pieces definitely
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Holmesdale 1989 15 Sep 16 11.18pm | |
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Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC
After watching the highlights of our game against Boro. I feel our midfield is more balanced with mcarthur and Ledley with puncheon in the advanced role. Cabaye form has certainly drop since the turn of the year. I just feel he doesn't deserve his place back until he proves it. Your thoughts I agree with the OP
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thai-eagle chiang mai 16 Sep 16 3.03am | |
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Whatever, very happy we have a player like Joe Ledley in our squad. Give his all, rarely lets us down and can play with the best (i.e Euro 2016 - Bale & Ramsey). More than good enough for our team...
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dreamwaverider London 16 Sep 16 4.10am | |
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Pro football is a bit like a computer. Most people undestand and use about 5% of what a computer offers.
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PhuketEagle Phuket 16 Sep 16 6.21am | |
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Good that we have some options at last. Would like to see McArthur, Flamini & Ledley together in midfield. While I like Cabaye he's not spurred us on & didn't get the captaincy when it became available - when perhaps he would've been in consideration if his performances had merited it.
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The Dolphin 16 Sep 16 7.11am | |
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We should be better with him - no doubt at all.
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srh london 16 Sep 16 8.09am | |
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Anyone who has ever been coached properly and played football and has half a brain can see that Cabye is by far our best central midfield player.
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Griffish Croydon 16 Sep 16 8.11am | |
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Cabaye and Mcarthur together is our best centre mid partnership without doubt (although we've not seen Flamini yet). Our success for the first half of the season was hugely down to this partnership in the middle where both were comfortable on the ball in tight areas and we're always looking for short passes from our defenders. I think Cabaye was 2nd in for tackles and interceptions for a midfielder at Christmas behind only Kante (I might be slightly off with that stat) but a lot of his defensive work goes unnoticed because some of us (me included at the start of the season) expected him to be scoring all sorts of goals from all over the place. When Mcarthur got injured, the Cabaye/Jedi partnership simply didn't work, and injuries to other key players certainly didn't help with results. As much of a warrior as Jedi is, he doesn't have the pace or agility to receive the balls in those tight areas which forced us to bypass the midfield more often and go direct. Although it must have been frustrating for Cabaye he certainly deserves some criticism for what seemed a lack of interest in a lot of games after Christmas when we needed him most. I can't wait to see Cabaye/Mcarthur link up in the middle again but it would be harsh on Ledley to be dropped for the Stoke game after his solid performance last week.
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