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Stuk Flag Top half 30 Aug 16 3.14pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

Was at Notting Hill Carnival yesterday, police were chasing loads of yoots, gangs obviously use this as a opportunity to settle scores. One officer told me they had made a arrest and were jeered and hustled by the crowd who were shouting abuse at them, the guy they arrested had a hunting knife on him.
Took my niece, some other girls told her they had been touched up by young males, we left early and went home.

Police Federation statement:

"Last year we had an officer stabbed. This year colleagues were assaulted, abused and spat at. Forty-three were injured - with eight needing hospital treatment. How can that be right? It's completely and utterly unacceptable. "A seemingly growing number of people appear intent on hijacking this Carnival and turning it into a Bank Holiday battleground. The Glastonbury music festival had 40 arrests this year. Notting Hill had 10 times that amount.

"The organisers need to understand that this event cannot carry on regardless. I think many Londoners will wonder whether the significant amount of taxpayers' money spent policing this event is frankly worth it."

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I bet the requests for holiday that week outstrip Christmas!

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 30 Aug 16 4.14pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Police Federation statement:

"Last year we had an officer stabbed. This year colleagues were assaulted, abused and spat at. Forty-three were injured - with eight needing hospital treatment. How can that be right? It's completely and utterly unacceptable. "A seemingly growing number of people appear intent on hijacking this Carnival and turning it into a Bank Holiday battleground. The Glastonbury music festival had 40 arrests this year. Notting Hill had 10 times that amount.

"The organisers need to understand that this event cannot carry on regardless. I think many Londoners will wonder whether the significant amount of taxpayers' money spent policing this event is frankly worth it."

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I bet the requests for holiday that week outstrip Christmas!

Pretty damning state of affairs. I know the police at Reading festival and Glastonbury also have a fairly 'lax' outlook on drug possession and use as well - which given the low level of 'real' offences makes sense (Nottinghill had 169 drug arrests this year).

The real shame here is that recent history has made me shy off from going to Nottinghill festival. Where as back in the day, its was a great cross cultural event - and I remember the coppers being pretty chill about it as well.


 


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Stuk Flag Top half 30 Aug 16 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Pretty damning state of affairs. I know the police at Reading festival and Glastonbury also have a fairly 'lax' outlook on drug possession and use as well - which given the low level of 'real' offences makes sense (Nottinghill had 169 drug arrests this year).

The real shame here is that recent history has made me shy off from going to Nottinghill festival. Where as back in the day, its was a great cross cultural event - and I remember the coppers being pretty chill about it as well.


I highly suspect they didn't follow their noses upon every whiff of weed at Notting Hill either.

It's been pretty dodgy since the early 90s, rather than just recent history. I think the only quietish one of recent years was when the poor little darlings were already rioted out from earlier that summer.

 


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7mins Flag In the bush 02 Sep 16 1.40am Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Pretty damning state of affairs. I know the police at Reading festival and Glastonbury also have a fairly 'lax' outlook on drug possession and use as well - which given the low level of 'real' offences makes sense (Nottinghill had 169 drug arrests this year).

The real shame here is that recent history has made me shy off from going to Nottinghill festival. Where as back in the day, its was a great cross cultural event - and I remember the coppers being pretty chill about it as well.


Loads of people were openly smoking joints.
Jamie, your post seems to suggest the met policed this differently from festivals.... What makes you say that?
I was there on family day, and it was horrible.

 

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 02 Sep 16 10.43am

Given the crime levels each year its about time they stopped the Carnival. Would like to know what the Police bill alone is for this. 500 Arrests. 6 stabbings. 46 Police injured. Lots of fights and the organisers were pleased with how things went.

 

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SurreyEagle16 Flag Next Door 02 Sep 16 10.56am Send a Private Message to SurreyEagle16 Add SurreyEagle16 as a friend

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 02 Sep 16 10.58am

Originally posted by 7mins

Loads of people were openly smoking joints.
Jamie, your post seems to suggest the met policed this differently from festivals.... What makes you say that?
I was there on family day, and it was horrible.

Actually I'm saying they don't have much of a choice but to police this festival differently. Less trouble and violence, the more hands off the police will be with festivals.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 02 Sep 16 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

Given the crime levels each year its about time they stopped the Carnival. Would like to know what the Police bill alone is for this. 500 Arrests. 6 stabbings. 46 Police injured. Lots of fights and the organisers were pleased with how things went.

It's a bargain at eight million quid.

 


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Apollofuzz Flag On the edge of reason 02 Sep 16 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Apollofuzz Add Apollofuzz as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Police Federation statement:

"Last year we had an officer stabbed. This year colleagues were assaulted, abused and spat at. Forty-three were injured - with eight needing hospital treatment. How can that be right? It's completely and utterly unacceptable. "A seemingly growing number of people appear intent on hijacking this Carnival and turning it into a Bank Holiday battleground. The Glastonbury music festival had 40 arrests this year. Notting Hill had 10 times that amount.

"The organisers need to understand that this event cannot carry on regardless. I think many Londoners will wonder whether the significant amount of taxpayers' money spent policing this event is frankly worth it."

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I bet the requests for holiday that week outstrip Christmas!

As far as in understand all Leave was refused for that weekend, as well as Notting Hill, there was SW4 Festival & Madness on Clapham Common & Croydon Gay Pride. In fact some shifts were extended, with Police officers finishing at 2 or 3 in the morning and then being back at 7.00am, I know that some slept in their cars at the nick rather than go home for 2 hours. If you managed to book leave you were very very lucky.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 02 Sep 16 2.53pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

As far as in understand all Leave was refused for that weekend, as well as Notting Hill, there was SW4 Festival & Madness on Clapham Common & Croydon Gay Pride. In fact some shifts were extended, with Police officers finishing at 2 or 3 in the morning and then being back at 7.00am, I know that some slept in their cars at the nick rather than go home for 2 hours. If you managed to book leave you were very very lucky.

I'll bet it was. Were it me I'd claim a family member was getting married abroad every year.

 


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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 03 Sep 16 7.14am Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

As far as in understand all Leave was refused for that weekend, as well as Notting Hill, there was SW4 Festival & Madness on Clapham Common & Croydon Gay Pride. In fact some shifts were extended, with Police officers finishing at 2 or 3 in the morning and then being back at 7.00am, I know that some slept in their cars at the nick rather than go home for 2 hours. If you managed to book leave you were very very lucky.

And sadly Apollo is telling the truth here... How on earth the Police get away with allowing this I just dont know.

The issue is is there is still a mentality that exists in the Police that if you complain at only having a few hours sleep (by law it's supposed to be 11 hours between shifts) then you will be looked upon as 'weak' or a 'whinger' and will most probably find that you will get given a series of s*** postings or find that your applications for other roles aren't supported.

Very sad that this way of thinking still exists.

Anyway should carnival continue??... Residents forced from their homes and have to board up their property?... A million people crammed into an area of one square mile??... Ridiculous level of crime? (And that's only the reported crime) And all at a cost of around £8 million to the taxpayer??.... Sounds like a bargain!!

We all know that no politician that carries any weight will ever be brave enough to suggest cancelling this.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 05 Sep 16 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

And sadly Apollo is telling the truth here... How on earth the Police get away with allowing this I just dont know.

The issue is is there is still a mentality that exists in the Police that if you complain at only having a few hours sleep (by law it's supposed to be 11 hours between shifts) then you will be looked upon as 'weak' or a 'whinger' and will most probably find that you will get given a series of s*** postings or find that your applications for other roles aren't supported.

Very sad that this way of thinking still exists.

Anyway should carnival continue??... Residents forced from their homes and have to board up their property?... A million people crammed into an area of one square mile??... Ridiculous level of crime? (And that's only the reported crime) And all at a cost of around £8 million to the taxpayer??.... Sounds like a bargain!!

We all know that no politician that carries any weight will ever be brave enough to suggest cancelling this.

I know what you mean. Anyone else would get done for dangerous driving

 


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