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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 May 16 3.54pm

Originally posted by kenbarr

It all depends on Wednesday night's SAFC v EFC match. As far as NDUFC and Spurs, I'm not so sure now that Spuds are falling apart and showing no discipline.

That said, I think its safe to say that Newcastle actually struggled against Villa to produce any highlights, let alone a chance.

Oddly, I think Norwich are the better team, it just they can't score goals at all. They needed to strengthen their squad when promoted, they didn't and now they've drifted into trouble the same way they did last time they were relegated.

With Big Sam taking over, Sunderland have learned how to defend, and have a goal scorer. Which is what has set them above their rivals.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 May 16 3.56pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

But for football fans, the main advantage is that the 72 rooms at the back of the hotel have a view of the pitch.

From experience not every room at the back of the hotel has a full view of the pitch.From my room you could see the goal and about a 1/3 of the pitch.I was seated in the Jarrold Stand.

 

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Jacey Flag 09 May 16 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

With Newcastle likely now to go down,one or two of their players will no doubt interest AP, and probably the same applies to Norwich

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 09 May 16 7.35pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

For my money Newcastle are really a 14th/15th place team...better than Sunderland...but McLaren has taken them down. Just an awful manager. Bad hire and he gave them plenty of opportunities to get rid but they didn't grasp the nettle until too late. Relegation is their own fault.

Norwich have, I think, a decent manager they've sold down the river by not investing. That said, Steven Naismith? A perennial journeyman who never has nor ever will score goals at the required rate. If that's the basket you put your eggs in, you're finished. Sad situation...they are the architects of their own downfall.

Sunderland I thought, briefly last week, might go and we'd finally be rid of Big Sam. But like Pulis and as has already been said, the combination of Defoe and a coach who knows how to get a team to defend is the magic formula in a relegation battle.

There have been some astonishingly inept managers this year. McLaren and Martinez have been simply awful. Both their teams have punched miles below their weights. Remi Garde couldn't even get his team fighting, let alone winning. It was more disinterested surrender than relegation battle. Pellegrini, who I like personally, has made a real dog's bollocks of Man City's season considering their investment and talent. A League Cup win and nothing else is a poor return for that squad and the Madrid game was little short of embarrassing. Although he gets away with it because he's a nice guy, Hiddink has really got very little out of Chelsea since he took over. Their performance vs. Tottenham showed us how far below par they've been all year, not just under Mourinho. The silver lining is that we've got rid of the King Bulls*** Merchant Brendan Rogers who never was and never will be anything other than a bluffer.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 May 16 8.22pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

For my money Newcastle are really a 14th/15th place team...better than Sunderland...but McLaren has taken them down. Just an awful manager. Bad hire and he gave them plenty of opportunities to get rid but they didn't grasp the nettle until too late. Relegation is their own fault.

Benitez was appointed with 10 games left to go.They were in 20th place a point adrift of safety.They have got 10 pts from his 9 games in charge.And he was appointed in March, after of course the January "Transfer Window".

 

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palaceontheup Flag 09 May 16 9.00pm Send a Private Message to palaceontheup Add palaceontheup as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Benitez was appointed with 10 games left to go.They were in 20th place a point adrift of safety.They have got 10 pts from his 9 games in charge.And he was appointed in March, after of course the January "Transfer Window".

No, Villa have practically been 20th all season. Newcastle were 19th when Benitez took over.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 May 16 9.12pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by palaceontheup
No, Villa have practically been 20th all season. Newcastle were 19th when Benitez took over.

Yes you're quite right.My mistake. Must be getting old !

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 May 16 10.21am

Originally posted by Willo

Benitez was appointed with 10 games left to go.They were in 20th place a point adrift of safety.They have got 10 pts from his 9 games in charge.And he was appointed in March, after of course the January "Transfer Window".

Newcastle were s**t long before McClaren got there. I think he improved them on Carvers reign. But like Benitez is demonstrating, a manager can only do so much with what they have. I think maybe Pardew realised this, and got out before it all went to s**t.

McClaren improved them, but not enough - but realistically you can only make so many changes. If Carver had still been in charge, they be making Villa look good.

The fans seem to have very unusual expectations, the board don't seem to care about the fans or the manager, and the squad seem to be broken in spirit under three managers now.

That's toxic for any manager and squad. Its telling that only recent additions seem to have commitment. I think a lot of their squad really want out and have just been going through the motions.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 May 16 10.22am

Originally posted by Willo

Yes you're quite right.My mistake. Must be getting old !

I keep forgetting that Villa are actually in the league so meaningless has their contribution been to this season.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 May 16 10.25am

Is McLaren a good manager, no. Is he useless, not really; He's an average one. I think he suits a team in which he can be very hands on, more of a coach. Oddly I think he's been promoted beyond his ability.

He was a very good assistant manager, and coach. But I don't think he can really manage people and players.

 


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Hoof Hearted 10 May 16 11.33am

McClaren is an awful manager. Who else would have set their team up to match us toe for toe at Selhurst? They got tonked 5-1, whereas every other lower/medium clubs tried to nullify our attack.

Both Allardarse and Benitez realise that keeping things tight and catching teams on the break would yield results.

I fully expect Sunderland to stay up by beating Everton tomorrow.

Sadly for Benitez, he was appointed too late and they will be 3rd bottom I'm afraid.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 May 16 1.16pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

McClaren is an awful manager. Who else would have set their team up to match us toe for toe at Selhurst? They got tonked 5-1, whereas every other lower/medium clubs tried to nullify our attack.

Both Allardarse and Benitez realise that keeping things tight and catching teams on the break would yield results.

I fully expect Sunderland to stay up by beating Everton tomorrow.

Sadly for Benitez, he was appointed too late and they will be 3rd bottom I'm afraid.

I think its tricky when you're essentially in a position where the fans are demanding unreasonable results and a style of play, and the owner is pushing you in that direction.

I think McClaren was always the wrong man, but he has some form - but it does surprise me how often he's considered 'among the top choices'. What they needed was a manager who either was 'very good' or capable of sorting out their defence.

They got neither. But they only got Benitez because he was sacked in January.

Average Championship manager and good coach, maybe about his level. Personally, I think Warnock would have been a better choice for them, than McClaren. At least they'd have had some fight and defensive steel.

 


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