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 ambrose7  Croydon 09 May 15 12.02pm |
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I actually support the ECHR but can see the pitfalls to it. The fact that very few of the rights are non-derogable and therefore often have to be assessed against one another does create a lot of uncertainty and can impact upon other areas in an unpredictable manner. My biggest concern about international law making are the powers that were accidentally given to Europe. For instance, not wanting to agree internationally on tax laws left the ECJ to legislate on these issues through their power to uphold the fundamental freedoms e.g. of movement and establishment. Therefore, to uphold these freedoms the ECJ can establish case law which legislates on the issues no-one wanted to be legislated on in Europe without any say from politicians whatsoever. Elected politicians didn't want to discuss legislation together, so unelected judges impose laws. The relationship between fundamental freedoms and other areas need to be seriously reconsidered because the ECJ have a lot of unelected power at present.
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| ambrose7 Croydon 09 May 15 12.07pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2015 12.29am
Day one: [Link]
The budget is the same, it's just being spread across more people in the hope that more people can benefit from it. It's just looking at whether some people get too much from it and whether that is of detriment to people who receive nothing, thereby trying to discover the best middle ground between receiving enough and benefiting as many as possible. The policy was announced before the election and all that was published yesterday was an impact assessment.
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| chris123 hove actually 09 May 15 12.58pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 08 May 2015 10.32pm
I don't think cuts are trivial.
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palace777  belfast 09 May 15 1.04pm |
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Quote chris123 at 09 May 2015 12.58pm
Quote nickgusset at 08 May 2015 10.32pm
I don't think cuts are trivial.
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| legaleagle 09 May 15 1.05pm |
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Quote ambrose7 at 09 May 2015 12.02pm
I actually support the ECHR but can see the pitfalls to it. The fact that very few of the rights are non-derogable and therefore often have to be assessed against one another does create a lot of uncertainty and can impact upon other areas in an unpredictable manner. My biggest concern about international law making are the powers that were accidentally given to Europe. For instance, not wanting to agree internationally on tax laws left the ECJ to legislate on these issues through their power to uphold the fundamental freedoms e.g. of movement and establishment. Therefore, to uphold these freedoms the ECJ can establish case law which legislates on the issues no-one wanted to be legislated on in Europe without any say from politicians whatsoever. Elected politicians didn't want to discuss legislation together, so unelected judges impose laws. The relationship between fundamental freedoms and other areas need to be seriously reconsidered because the ECJ have a lot of unelected power at present. There's always going to be an inherent tension between different rights,ie the right to freedom of expression by the press and the right to privacy of an individual.Its not easy and judges have to balance those things very regularly,depending on the particular circumstances of the matter at hand. Even if we derogate from the ECHR and replace it with domestic legislation,a lot of things would still end up being interpreted and balanced by "unelected" Judges here.
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| derben 09 May 15 1.21pm |
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Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 1.05pm
Quote ambrose7 at 09 May 2015 12.02pm
I actually support the ECHR but can see the pitfalls to it. The fact that very few of the rights are non-derogable and therefore often have to be assessed against one another does create a lot of uncertainty and can impact upon other areas in an unpredictable manner. My biggest concern about international law making are the powers that were accidentally given to Europe. For instance, not wanting to agree internationally on tax laws left the ECJ to legislate on these issues through their power to uphold the fundamental freedoms e.g. of movement and establishment. Therefore, to uphold these freedoms the ECJ can establish case law which legislates on the issues no-one wanted to be legislated on in Europe without any say from politicians whatsoever. Elected politicians didn't want to discuss legislation together, so unelected judges impose laws. The relationship between fundamental freedoms and other areas need to be seriously reconsidered because the ECJ have a lot of unelected power at present. There's always going to be an inherent tension between different rights,ie the right to freedom of expression by the press and the right to privacy of an individual.Its not easy and judges have to balance those things very regularly,depending on the particular circumstances of the matter at hand. Even if we derogate from the ECHR and replace it with domestic legislation,a lot of things would still end up being interpreted and balanced by "unelected" Judges here. Far better that the UK judiciary decides matters in the UK. Again, all that is being asked is that we pass our own laws and have our own judiciary decide on matters. Why is this too much to ask.
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| imbored UK 09 May 15 4.25pm |
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Legislation being brought forward to legalise fox hunting again I see.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 09 May 15 4.33pm |
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Quote imbored at 09 May 2015 4.25pm
Legislation being brought forward to legalise fox hunting again I see. all the important stuff then.
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 Scucca Ely 09 May 15 4.41pm |
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The Human Rights act was a brilliant idea. The problem is that; as they say; 'The road to Hell is paved with good intentions'.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 May 15 10.31pm |
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Quote palace777 at 09 May 2015 1.04pm
Quote chris123 at 09 May 2015 12.58pm
Quote nickgusset at 08 May 2015 10.32pm
I don't think cuts are trivial.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 May 15 10.33pm |
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Is this only the beginning?
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 09 May 15 10.46pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2015 10.33pm
Is this only the beginning?
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