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TheJudge  11 Mar 15 12.52pm |
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Perhaps Diane Abbot would like him replaced by a black presenter.
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 topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 11 Mar 15 12.57pm |
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If he assaulted someone in the work place to not sack him could be more problematic than sacking him. I suspect that the producer will be leaned on to make light of it and that Jezza will be given another last chance. Personally I think Alan Partridge would be an excellent replacement for him.
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 11 Mar 15 12.59pm |
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Unlike Fledgling I like Clarkson. (There is nothing unnatural about a love of automobiles, by the way.I have had deep and meaningful relationships with many cars!) I suspect Clarkson and myself are opposite ends politically but it's really important that organisations like the BBC have people on the tv who won't tow the politically correct line. Clarkson loves taking the p**s and good luck to him. The BBC is frightened of its own shadow. As for smacking producers... Each to their own and I too like those who don't tow the political line but preferably not by being racist and ignorant.
Point being, two sides to wevery story, and two vantage points as well. Know nothing of what Diane Abbott has said or done so can't comment and don't really understand your first point. As for Clarkson, what's the other side to the debate? He's shown himself to be a casual racist, ignorant/disrespectful of other cultures and politically insensitive when a guest in another country. Now he's clumped someone, maybe under extreme provocation, maybe not. Don't get me wrong I'm not sitting here seething like a Daily Mail reader, his behaviour is that of an attention seeking child. Trouble is he's an adult in the media spotlight and you can't behave like that. Whilst I have no flag to wave for Clarkson. - Why not ?? Serious question and not intended as a dig. TV is flooded with vanilla, talentless, vapid, inoffensive, anodine autocuties, quota fillers and those who have the depth of personality of a puddle. At least he diverges from that. Clarkson plays his cartoon character very well (and very profitably) - that of fat, balding out of condition middle Englander who's dress sense doesn't stretch beyond Next catalogue. He's cultivated a persona as a cardboard cut out, stereotypical unapologetic xenophobe trading on cardboard cut out stereotypes of everyone and everything else. To paraphrase Stephen Fry - So people get offended - so f*cking what ? Edited by The Sash (11 Mar 2015 1.01pm)
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| radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 11 Mar 15 1.10pm |
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can't stand the bloke
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| Dan1 Croydon 11 Mar 15 1.17pm |
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Didn't this happen last week but only comes out after Inverdale swears on the radio having already called the 2013 Wimbledon champion a minger
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| fledgling Beckenham 11 Mar 15 1.19pm |
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Quote The Sash at 11 Mar 2015 12.59pm
Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 12.31pm
Quote dannyh at 11 Mar 2015 12.16pm
Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 11.54am
Quote buzby1 at 11 Mar 2015 11.46am
Unlike Fledgling I like Clarkson. (There is nothing unnatural about a love of automobiles, by the way.I have had deep and meaningful relationships with many cars!) I suspect Clarkson and myself are opposite ends politically but it's really important that organisations like the BBC have people on the tv who won't tow the politically correct line. Clarkson loves taking the p**s and good luck to him. The BBC is frightened of its own shadow. As for smacking producers... Each to their own and I too like those who don't tow the political line but preferably not by being racist and ignorant.
Point being, two sides to wevery story, and two vantage points as well. Know nothing of what Diane Abbott has said or done so can't comment and don't really understand your first point. As for Clarkson, what's the other side to the debate? He's shown himself to be a casual racist, ignorant/disrespectful of other cultures and politically insensitive when a guest in another country. Now he's clumped someone, maybe under extreme provocation, maybe not. Don't get me wrong I'm not sitting here seething like a Daily Mail reader, his behaviour is that of an attention seeking child. Trouble is he's an adult in the media spotlight and you can't behave like that. Whilst I have no flag to wave for Clarkson. - Why not ?? Serious question and not intended as a dig. TV is flooded with vanilla, talentless, vapid, inoffensive, anodine autocuties, quota fillers and those who have the depth of personality of a puddle. At least he diverges from that. Clarkson plays his cartoon character very well (and very profitably) - that of fat, balding out of condition middle Englander who's dress sense doesn't stretch beyond Next catalogue. He's cultivated a persona as a cardboard cut out, stereotypical unapologetic xenophobe trading on cardboard cut out stereotypes of everyone and everything else. To paraphrase Stephen Fry - So people get offended - so f*cking what ? Edited by The Sash (11 Mar 2015 1.01pm) I think that's a very expansive question but in short because of the politically sensitive, easily offended society we live in.
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| Old Chap Orpington 11 Mar 15 1.43pm |
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Quote Ian J at 11 Mar 2015 10.45am
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The problem for the BBC is that JC and his executive producer own 50% of the production company that make TG (the BBC own the other 50%). It won't continue if the two parties can't come to an agreement and with a worldwide audience of 300m and the BBC earning £4.5m from the programme last year, it will be a huge decision for the Beeb. According to Radio 4 news this morning they quoted TG earning £200M from overseas syndication and that Clarkson sold his existing stake ages ago. It will still be a huge cock up by the Beeb if they let him go. The BBC are in a very difficult position as they have given Clarkson plenty of warnings and made the point last time that it was his last warning so what are they supposed to do now. It wasn't a case of mumbling something inaudible under his breath or insulting a race by using a derogatory term that most of us had never heard of as this time if the stories are to be believed he physically assaulted one of the staff which for any other person in any other company is a sacking offence. If the BBC let him carry on as normal where does it stop? At most companies assault is classed as gross misconduct and invariably leads to dismissal. As JC had already had a number of warnings the BBC can hardly let it go with a reprimand If they don't sack him it opens a precedent for people to go round thumping people at work knowing this case could be cited in court JC probably thinks he's untouchable because of the ratings & revenue Top Gear generates. But Andy Grey thought the same, until Sky sacked him Whilst other entertainment companies are probably queuing up to take the programme, would they allow him as much slack (dodgy comments etc)?
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| Stuk Top half 11 Mar 15 2.21pm |
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Whatever happens in the long run to Clarkson or Top Gear not showing the last 3 episodes of this series, that's been made with licence money, is ridiculous. The other TV companies are probably already working out how much they can afford to spend to secure the three of them.
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| ghosteagle 11 Mar 15 2.35pm |
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Quote Stuk at 11 Mar 2015 2.21pm
Whatever happens in the long run to Clarkson or Top Gear not showing the last 3 episodes of this series, that's been made with licence money, is ridiculous. The other TV companies are probably already working out how much they can afford to spend to secure the three of them. They'll all be working for Sky within the week.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Mar 15 2.38pm |
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Quote Dan1 at 11 Mar 2015 1.17pm
Didn't this happen last week but only comes out after Inverdale swears on the radio having already called the 2013 Wimbledon champion a minger
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 11 Mar 15 2.48pm |
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Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 1.19pm
Quote The Sash at 11 Mar 2015 12.59pm
Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 12.31pm
Quote dannyh at 11 Mar 2015 12.16pm
Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 11.54am
Quote buzby1 at 11 Mar 2015 11.46am
Unlike Fledgling I like Clarkson. (There is nothing unnatural about a love of automobiles, by the way.I have had deep and meaningful relationships with many cars!) I suspect Clarkson and myself are opposite ends politically but it's really important that organisations like the BBC have people on the tv who won't tow the politically correct line. Clarkson loves taking the p**s and good luck to him. The BBC is frightened of its own shadow. As for smacking producers... Each to their own and I too like those who don't tow the political line but preferably not by being racist and ignorant.
Point being, two sides to wevery story, and two vantage points as well. Know nothing of what Diane Abbott has said or done so can't comment and don't really understand your first point. As for Clarkson, what's the other side to the debate? He's shown himself to be a casual racist, ignorant/disrespectful of other cultures and politically insensitive when a guest in another country. Now he's clumped someone, maybe under extreme provocation, maybe not. Don't get me wrong I'm not sitting here seething like a Daily Mail reader, his behaviour is that of an attention seeking child. Trouble is he's an adult in the media spotlight and you can't behave like that. Whilst I have no flag to wave for Clarkson. - Why not ?? Serious question and not intended as a dig. TV is flooded with vanilla, talentless, vapid, inoffensive, anodine autocuties, quota fillers and those who have the depth of personality of a puddle. At least he diverges from that. Clarkson plays his cartoon character very well (and very profitably) - that of fat, balding out of condition middle Englander who's dress sense doesn't stretch beyond Next catalogue. He's cultivated a persona as a cardboard cut out, stereotypical unapologetic xenophobe trading on cardboard cut out stereotypes of everyone and everything else. To paraphrase Stephen Fry - So people get offended - so f*cking what ? Edited by The Sash (11 Mar 2015 1.01pm) I think that's a very expansive question but in short because of the politically sensitive, easily offended society we live in.
To flip it then surely the politically sensitive, easily offended in society should like it or lump it. It reminds me of something I saw on t'interweb the other day which I quite liked where its listed out various things that seems to make peoples hackles rise these days - again to paraphrase Don't like smoking - Then don't do it I guess if you don't like Clarkson - Don't watch him Edited by The Sash (11 Mar 2015 2.52pm)
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| fledgling Beckenham 11 Mar 15 3.02pm |
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Quote The Sash at 11 Mar 2015 2.48pm
Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 1.19pm
Quote The Sash at 11 Mar 2015 12.59pm
Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 12.31pm
Quote dannyh at 11 Mar 2015 12.16pm
Quote fledgling at 11 Mar 2015 11.54am
Quote buzby1 at 11 Mar 2015 11.46am
Unlike Fledgling I like Clarkson. (There is nothing unnatural about a love of automobiles, by the way.I have had deep and meaningful relationships with many cars!) I suspect Clarkson and myself are opposite ends politically but it's really important that organisations like the BBC have people on the tv who won't tow the politically correct line. Clarkson loves taking the p**s and good luck to him. The BBC is frightened of its own shadow. As for smacking producers... Each to their own and I too like those who don't tow the political line but preferably not by being racist and ignorant.
Point being, two sides to wevery story, and two vantage points as well. Know nothing of what Diane Abbott has said or done so can't comment and don't really understand your first point. As for Clarkson, what's the other side to the debate? He's shown himself to be a casual racist, ignorant/disrespectful of other cultures and politically insensitive when a guest in another country. Now he's clumped someone, maybe under extreme provocation, maybe not. Don't get me wrong I'm not sitting here seething like a Daily Mail reader, his behaviour is that of an attention seeking child. Trouble is he's an adult in the media spotlight and you can't behave like that. Whilst I have no flag to wave for Clarkson. - Why not ?? Serious question and not intended as a dig. TV is flooded with vanilla, talentless, vapid, inoffensive, anodine autocuties, quota fillers and those who have the depth of personality of a puddle. At least he diverges from that. Clarkson plays his cartoon character very well (and very profitably) - that of fat, balding out of condition middle Englander who's dress sense doesn't stretch beyond Next catalogue. He's cultivated a persona as a cardboard cut out, stereotypical unapologetic xenophobe trading on cardboard cut out stereotypes of everyone and everything else. To paraphrase Stephen Fry - So people get offended - so f*cking what ? Edited by The Sash (11 Mar 2015 1.01pm) I think that's a very expansive question but in short because of the politically sensitive, easily offended society we live in.
To flip it then surely the politically sensitive, easily offended in society should like it or lump it. You'd think. I just turn over when his bulbous face looms. But the outraged have a voice and complain to the media organisation who they part fund. The national media get hold of it and the BBC gets negative attention and are now over a barrel. Maybe I should have phrased it "you can't behave like that and expect to keep your job presenting a prime time television show on one of the BBC's flagship channels".
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