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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Nov 14 8.58pm
Quote matt_himself at 07 Nov 2014 8.24pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 8.22pm Do I hate anyone that holds differing views? Really? Don't think so petal. I think you do. Hence your menstrual nature when people disagree with you. I must be honest on this Matt as Nick doesn't hate everyone with different views as I have regular cordial interactions with Nick via pm on a very regular basis, and I can assure you my views are the very opposite to his I can assure you. For one I cannot stand unions they are my pet hate....but it does not stop us being friends. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Nov 14 8.58pm

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Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 8.22pm

Do I hate anyone that holds differing views? Really? Don't think so petal.

I think you do. Hence your menstrual nature when people disagree with you.

I must be honest on this Matt as Nick doesn't hate everyone with different views as I have regular cordial interactions with Nick via pm on a very regular basis, and I can assure you my views are the very opposite to his I can assure you. For one I cannot stand unions they are my pet hate....but it does not stop us being friends.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Nov 14 9.01pm
Can I ask if he can be somewhere in-between? - something like 'a bit of a moaner' and 'a slight tosser'. Perhaps something akin to the last supporter of the SDP, or even a liberal voter? Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Nov 14 9.01pm

Can I ask if he can be somewhere in-between? - something like 'a bit of a moaner' and 'a slight tosser'. Perhaps something akin to the last supporter of the SDP, or even a liberal voter?

Red and Blue Army!

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TUX redhill 07 Nov 14 9.10pm
Russell Brand - class warrior or complete bell end ---------------------------- Two titles and neither really work. He's just a bloke who tries to 'open the eyes of the blinkered' I guess. Where's the harm in that? [Link]
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redhill 07 Nov 14 9.10pm

Russell Brand - class warrior or complete bell end
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Two titles and neither really work. He's just a bloke who tries to 'open the eyes of the blinkered' I guess. Where's the harm in that?

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serial thriller The Promised Land 07 Nov 14 9.15pm
Quote matt_himself at 07 Nov 2014 7.48pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 7.36pm Quote matt_himself at 07 Nov 2014 7.27pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 7.22pm Quote matt_himself at 07 Nov 2014 7.17pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 7.13pm Quote Mongo Like Clunge at 07 Nov 2014 7.04pm PARKLIFE! It started with this tweet: [Tweet Link] And became this video: [Link] P.S. You two need to f* and get this out of your systems. Edited by Mongo Like Clunge (07 Nov 2014 7.07pm) Very funny vids. Still, I think they're used as a way to deflect from the message he gives. It's easier to take the piss out of the messenger than answer the questions / issues he brings up. It easy to take the piss out of Russell Brand because his talks s* and doesn't help the 'working class' despite his ability to do so given his huge wealth. He is selling socialism through his books and morons lap it up. He is selling socialism and you don't get it! I do understand the irony here. He deals with the subject quite well in Revolution. Read it, then you can form a more objective opinion. Then get back to me. Bolocks. He is a celebrity socialist. He is happy to espouse 'revolution' from his loft in Shoreditch yet less keen to live in West Croydon with the 'workers' and experience what is a lower middle class or working class existence, let alone he existence of an Eastern European in the UK. Frankly he talks s* and whilst i believe you believe the s* that comes with bedroom socialism, it would give the likes of Brand more credibility if they walked he walk after talking the talk. Just saying. Like I said, hear or read him defend himself then get back to me. I wouldn't describe him as a socialist, but should his views change just cause he's now worth a few bob? To say they should is both fatuous and facile. No I've never been out with an African, but have taught in multicultural multi ethnic areas for the past 12 years so have a reasonable idea of many inherent issues. That makes it all ok, doesn't it Gusset? You talk the talk yet don't walk the walk. You tell us what we should do yet have no experience of 'multiculturalism'. I find your politics weak, predictable and hypocritical. Please, tell me it ain't so... Hold on, are you suggesting that unless Gussett enters a full sexual relationship with someone of African descent, he won't understand their problems? I love you Matt. I really do. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Quote matt_himself at 07 Nov 2014 7.48pm

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Quote Mongo Like Clunge at 07 Nov 2014 7.04pm

PARKLIFE!

It started with this tweet:

[Tweet Link]

And became this video: [Link]

P.S. You two need to f*** and get this out of your systems.

Edited by Mongo Like Clunge (07 Nov 2014 7.07pm)

Very funny vids.
Still, I think they're used as a way to deflect from the message he gives. It's easier to take the piss out of the messenger than answer the questions / issues he brings up.

It easy to take the piss out of Russell Brand because his talks s*** and doesn't help the 'working class' despite his ability to do so given his huge wealth. He is selling socialism through his books and morons lap it up. He is selling socialism and you don't get it!

I do understand the irony here. He deals with the subject quite well in Revolution. Read it, then you can form a more objective opinion. Then get back to me.

Bolocks. He is a celebrity socialist. He is happy to espouse 'revolution' from his loft in Shoreditch yet less keen to live in West Croydon with the 'workers' and experience what is a lower middle class or working class existence, let alone he existence of an Eastern European in the UK. Frankly he talks s*** and whilst i believe you believe the s*** that comes with bedroom socialism, it would give the likes of Brand more credibility if they walked he walk after talking the talk.

Just saying.

Like I said, hear or read him defend himself then get back to me.

I wouldn't describe him as a socialist, but should his views change just cause he's now worth a few bob? To say they should is both fatuous and facile.

No I've never been out with an African, but have taught in multicultural multi ethnic areas for the past 12 years so have a reasonable idea of many inherent issues.

That makes it all ok, doesn't it Gusset?

You talk the talk yet don't walk the walk.

You tell us what we should do yet have no experience of 'multiculturalism'.

I find your politics weak, predictable and hypocritical. Please, tell me it ain't so...

Hold on, are you suggesting that unless Gussett enters a full sexual relationship with someone of African descent, he won't understand their problems?

I love you Matt. I really do.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Mongo Like Clunge Bumfuck City, Texas 07 Nov 14 9.31pm
Quote serial thriller at 07 Nov 2014 9.15pm Hold on, are you suggesting that unless Gussett enters a full sexual relationship with someone of African descent, he won't understand their problems? I love you Matt. I really do. I hear the brothels of Liberia are lovely at this time of year. WORRIED that your teeth will be stained after a heavy night drinking red wine? Fear not; drink a bottle of white wine before going to bed, to remove the stains.
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Quote serial thriller at 07 Nov 2014 9.15pm
Hold on, are you suggesting that unless Gussett enters a full sexual relationship with someone of African descent, he won't understand their problems?

I love you Matt. I really do.

I hear the brothels of Liberia are lovely at this time of year.

WORRIED that your teeth will be stained after a heavy night drinking red wine? Fear not; drink a bottle of white wine before going to bed, to remove the stains.

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 07 Nov 14 9.49pm
Cant stand that revolting cretin Brand, Kill it with fire. The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 07 Nov 14 9.49pm

Cant stand that revolting cretin Brand, Kill it with fire.

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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TUX redhill 07 Nov 14 9.59pm
Quote Ouzo Dan at 07 Nov 2014 9.49pm Cant stand that revolting cretin Brand, Kill it with fire. And you call him 'revolting'!
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redhill 07 Nov 14 9.59pm

Quote Ouzo Dan at 07 Nov 2014 9.49pm

Cant stand that revolting cretin Brand, Kill it with fire.

And you call him 'revolting'!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Nov 14 10.58pm
They're not mutually exclusive, even a busted clock tells the right time twice a day and all that, its just that I'd rather read Kropotkin, Klein or Goldman, than suffer the outrage of another dreary 'awakened' t***. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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They're not mutually exclusive, even a busted clock tells the right time twice a day and all that, its just that I'd rather read Kropotkin, Klein or Goldman, than suffer the outrage of another dreary 'awakened' t***.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Nov 14 11.17pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 6.13pm Bit of a knob Russell is, but, having listened to a lot of his latest book, speaks a lot of truths. The fact he has a lot of salient points is the reason, to my mind, why he is being crucified in the media as it is those who have their fingers in the metaphorical pies that he is railing against. Example: fracking. We only hear good things about fracking in much of the news corps press, which a lot of people believe cos it's 'in the paper' with lots of lovely diagrams and stuff. Turns out, Murdoch is on the board of directors of a major fracking organisation in the states, so it's in his interest to make shale gas look all lovely. Of course he won't allow any negative press about it- poisoning the landscape, rendering water flammable etc etc cos it'll affect his profits. So of course he is being discredited... Edited by nickgusset (07 Nov 2014 6.15pm) I'm willing to bet that Brand isn't a geologist though? Pro USA & Israel
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 6.13pm

Bit of a knob Russell is, but, having listened to a lot of his latest book, speaks a lot of truths.
The fact he has a lot of salient points is the reason, to my mind, why he is being crucified in the media as it is those who have their fingers in the metaphorical pies that he is railing against.

Example: fracking. We only hear good things about fracking in much of the news corps press, which a lot of people believe cos it's 'in the paper' with lots of lovely diagrams and stuff. Turns out, Murdoch is on the board of directors of a major fracking organisation in the states, so it's in his interest to make shale gas look all lovely. Of course he won't allow any negative press about it- poisoning the landscape, rendering water flammable etc etc cos it'll affect his profits.

So of course he is being discredited...

Edited by nickgusset (07 Nov 2014 6.15pm)

I'm willing to bet that Brand isn't a geologist though?

Pro USA & Israel

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Nov 14 11.19pm
Quote Jimenez at 07 Nov 2014 11.17pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 6.13pm Bit of a knob Russell is, but, having listened to a lot of his latest book, speaks a lot of truths. The fact he has a lot of salient points is the reason, to my mind, why he is being crucified in the media as it is those who have their fingers in the metaphorical pies that he is railing against. Example: fracking. We only hear good things about fracking in much of the news corps press, which a lot of people believe cos it's 'in the paper' with lots of lovely diagrams and stuff. Turns out, Murdoch is on the board of directors of a major fracking organisation in the states, so it's in his interest to make shale gas look all lovely. Of course he won't allow any negative press about it- poisoning the landscape, rendering water flammable etc etc cos it'll affect his profits. So of course he is being discredited... Edited by nickgusset (07 Nov 2014 6.15pm) I'm willing to bet that Brand isn't a geologist though? And I'm willing to bet Murdoch puts profit above environmental damage.
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Shizzlehurst 07 Nov 14 11.19pm

Quote Jimenez at 07 Nov 2014 11.17pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Nov 2014 6.13pm

So of course he is being discredited...

Edited by nickgusset (07 Nov 2014 6.15pm)

I'm willing to bet that Brand isn't a geologist though?

And I'm willing to bet Murdoch puts profit above environmental damage.

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The White Horse 07 Nov 14 11.20pm
I don't agree with Russell Brand's political views. I also think he's a bit of a knob. But I think the left should appreciate him as a kind of "left-wing opposite to Clarkson". I once went to a comedy gala type thing and the second he came onto the stage, the guy behind me was saying "what a c***" and then "he's not funny" about once a minute for his whole routine. I think ultimately right-wingers automatically dislike him, irrespective of what he says, because he's a camp liberal who gets all the women he wants. He's actually reasonably funny. "The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee
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I don't agree with Russell Brand's political views. I also think he's a bit of a knob. But I think the left should appreciate him as a kind of "left-wing opposite to Clarkson".

I once went to a comedy gala type thing and the second he came onto the stage, the guy behind me was saying "what a c***" and then "he's not funny" about once a minute for his whole routine.

I think ultimately right-wingers automatically dislike him, irrespective of what he says, because he's a camp liberal who gets all the women he wants. He's actually reasonably funny.

"The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Nov 14 11.22pm
The man is a complete cock. The capitalism he "hates" has allowed him to have a very comfy lifestyle including a rather lavish wedding by anyone's standards never mind a "revolutionary" and also fund his upcoming film. The reality is that capitalism ultimately works because it fits in with human nature far better than any other well meaning "we are all equal" rhetoric the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 07 Nov 14 11.22pm

The man is a complete cock.

The capitalism he "hates" has allowed him to have a very comfy lifestyle including a rather lavish wedding by anyone's standards never mind a "revolutionary" and also fund his upcoming film.

The reality is that capitalism ultimately works because it fits in with human nature far better than any other well meaning "we are all equal" rhetoric

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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