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hastingseagle67 14 Apr 14 3.32pm
Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.10pm Quote Willo at 13 Apr 2014 8.57pm Quote The Sash at 13 Apr 2014 8.46pm I thought Webb was yet again his usual self. His "Usual Self" has refereed an FA Cup Final, A Champions League Final, a World Cup final, in the Euro championships etc etc. You certainly don't get selected for such prestigious events if you are a somewhat less than capable referee. Yes and we all remember how well he refereed the WCF....he was booed getting his medal and had both sides moaning about his officiating, his League Cup Final ended in a 20 man brawl and at a local level his 'performance' at Selhurst against Saints was as atrocious as I have seen for a long time, as was he back in Feb when he refereed Liverpool v Arsenal and made such a pigs ear that Mark Halsey had to come out and defend him and tell him to concentrate more on his reffing rather than his after dinner speaking Thats his 'usual' self I can't argue with anything you have said there, and given the choice I would never have him referee another Palace game,but my point from the original post was that for me, having been to all the games at Selhurst this season, that was the best officiating I have seen. I know it doesn't say a lot, cos they are all pretty poor, but we all pretty much went into the match bemoaning the fact that it was Webb, but in my opinion he ended up putting in a pretty decent shift and I left the ground pleasantly suprised. We are all quick to jump on ref's backs when they are ballsing it up, but lets give them a bit of credit when they occasionally deserve it. has resisted writing a single post on the Ross McCormack thread !!!
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Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.10pm

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I thought Webb was yet again his usual self.

His "Usual Self" has refereed an FA Cup Final, A Champions League Final, a World Cup final, in the Euro championships etc etc.
You certainly don't get selected for such prestigious events if you are a somewhat less than capable referee.

Yes and we all remember how well he refereed the WCF....he was booed getting his medal and had both sides moaning about his officiating, his League Cup Final ended in a 20 man brawl and at a local level his 'performance' at Selhurst against Saints was as atrocious as I have seen for a long time, as was he back in Feb when he refereed Liverpool v Arsenal and made such a pigs ear that Mark Halsey had to come out and defend him and tell him to concentrate more on his reffing rather than his after dinner speaking

Thats his 'usual' self

I can't argue with anything you have said there, and given the choice I would never have him referee another Palace game,but my point from the original post was that for me, having been to all the games at Selhurst this season, that was the best officiating I have seen. I know it doesn't say a lot, cos they are all pretty poor, but we all pretty much went into the match bemoaning the fact that it was Webb, but in my opinion he ended up putting in a pretty decent shift and I left the ground pleasantly suprised. We are all quick to jump on ref's backs when they are ballsing it up, but lets give them a bit of credit when they occasionally deserve it.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Apr 14 3.42pm
Quote Spiderman at 13 Apr 2014 7.08pm Quote Willo at 13 Apr 2014 6.35pm Quote indianapalace85 at 13 Apr 2014 6.25pm The first penalty shout on Bolasie was a definite penalty as he was caught. We would have been very upset if that had been awarded against us ! Are you Webb's love child? Look at the incident closely, Holt stands on Yannicks achilles (standing foot), would you be so magnaminous if he had put Yannick out for the season. Perhaps someone was standing in front of you!! If Holt makes contact then its a penalty, but the right decision was not to give it. Even with the replay its hard to tell, so its even harder when you've got to make a split second decision based on what you can see. After a couple of replays I think Holt makes contact, but the referee has to be certain. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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The first penalty shout on Bolasie was a definite penalty as he was caught.

We would have been very upset if that had been awarded against us !

Are you Webb's love child? Look at the incident closely, Holt stands on Yannicks achilles (standing foot), would you be so magnaminous if he had put Yannick out for the season. Perhaps someone was standing in front of you!!

If Holt makes contact then its a penalty, but the right decision was not to give it. Even with the replay its hard to tell, so its even harder when you've got to make a split second decision based on what you can see.

After a couple of replays I think Holt makes contact, but the referee has to be certain.

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 14 Apr 14 3.54pm
Quote Willo at 14 Apr 2014 3.28pm Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.10pm Yes and we all remember how well he refereed the WCF....he was booed getting his medal and had both sides moaning about his officiating, his League Cup Final ended in a 20 man brawl and at a local level his 'performance' at Selhurst against Saints was as atrocious as I have seen for a long time, as was he back in Feb when he refereed Liverpool v Arsenal and made such a pigs ear that Mark Halsey had to come out and defend him and tell him to concentrate more on his reffing rather than his after dinner speaking Thats his 'usual' self And Howard Webb initiated the brawl ???? Whatever next ] And there were those who conceded that the World Cup Final was very difficult to referee and praised Webb for his handling of it. In the final analysis, every referee, like players will have days when they fall behind their usual high standards.All referees make honest mistakes.I have no issue with Howard Webb - he is a top referee. Edited by Willo (14 Apr 2014 3.35pm) In your opinion - as this thread shows thats not a universally held one As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 14 Apr 14 3.54pm

Quote Willo at 14 Apr 2014 3.28pm

Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.10pm

Thats his 'usual' self

And Howard Webb initiated the brawl ???? Whatever next ]
And there were those who conceded that the World Cup Final was very difficult to referee and praised Webb for his handling of it.

In the final analysis, every referee, like players will have days when they fall behind their usual high standards.All referees make honest mistakes.I have no issue with Howard Webb - he is a top referee.

Edited by Willo (14 Apr 2014 3.35pm)

In your opinion - as this thread shows thats not a universally held one

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 14 Apr 14 4.01pm
Quote victor43 at 14 Apr 2014 3.23pm Quote The Sash at 13 Apr 2014 8.46pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 13 Apr 2014 9.30am Quote Sg Bilko at 13 Apr 2014 8.43am Quote selecta at 13 Apr 2014 8.33am By awarding the penalty initially clearly showed that he just guessed it. He should have consulted the lino first rather than looking like a fool afterwards. No, he gave what he thought he saw, the player definitely moved his body to the ball and contact was made, in normal play time that could have looked like an arm made contact with the ball, and he had the commonsense to consult the linesman. He got that one spot on, and the one with Bolasies less than graceful theatrics 100% correct, neither were penalties. In actual fact Webb reacted to the linesman pointing to his chest which normally indicates a penalty, but on discussion the lineo was saying the ball hit the player's chest. I still think Webb missed things and would not be happy with him refereeing us every week. He completely ignored the challenge on Bolasie which I believe was a pen (why would he go down with the goal at his mercy?) and didn't even see Guzan take out Jedinak. It was in front of me too and although MJ made sure he went across him he did barge him and then kick him - if McGregor from Hull got a red for that little silly flick at O'Keefe then this was nailed on red. (I laughed too to be fair) I thought Webb was yet again his usual self..I dread it when we get him and if he is the cream of PL reffing then crikey...you just do not know what you are going to get from him each time he comes I disagree about the 1st shout as well - Bolassie was rather subtly and cleverly caught for me although I agree with Pulis - I can see how it wasn't given Just one thing on his reversed penalty - how did it end up a free kick to Villa ??? The ball went through to Guzan who picked it up Edited by The Sash (13 Apr 2014 8.49pm) What could he have given there?! It was in his hands, so effectively a goal kick anyway. He's not gonna do a drop ball when the only reason play stopped was his mistake. Thats why I asked - I genuinely dont know - as the ball was in Guzans hand it would have been a goal kick from his hands no ???? As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote selecta at 13 Apr 2014 8.33am

By awarding the penalty initially clearly showed that he just guessed it. He should have consulted the lino first rather than looking like a fool afterwards.

No, he gave what he thought he saw, the player definitely moved his body to the ball and contact was made, in normal play time that could have looked like an arm made contact with the ball, and he had the commonsense to consult the linesman.

He got that one spot on, and the one with Bolasies less than graceful theatrics 100% correct, neither were penalties.

In actual fact Webb reacted to the linesman pointing to his chest which normally indicates a penalty, but on discussion the lineo was saying the ball hit the player's chest.

I still think Webb missed things and would not be happy with him refereeing us every week.

He completely ignored the challenge on Bolasie which I believe was a pen (why would he go down with the goal at his mercy?) and didn't even see Guzan take out Jedinak.

It was in front of me too and although MJ made sure he went across him he did barge him and then kick him - if McGregor from Hull got a red for that little silly flick at O'Keefe then this was nailed on red. (I laughed too to be fair)

I thought Webb was yet again his usual self..I dread it when we get him and if he is the cream of PL reffing then crikey...you just do not know what you are going to get from him each time he comes

I disagree about the 1st shout as well - Bolassie was rather subtly and cleverly caught for me although I agree with Pulis - I can see how it wasn't given

Just one thing on his reversed penalty - how did it end up a free kick to Villa ??? The ball went through to Guzan who picked it up

Edited by The Sash (13 Apr 2014 8.49pm)

What could he have given there?! It was in his hands, so effectively a goal kick anyway. He's not gonna do a drop ball when the only reason play stopped was his mistake.

Thats why I asked - I genuinely dont know - as the ball was in Guzans hand it would have been a goal kick from his hands no ????

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 14 Apr 14 4.01pm
Can it pleased be noted, I have kept out of this 'debate'....... This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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Can it pleased be noted, I have kept out of this 'debate'.......

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 14 Apr 14 4.03pm
Quote hastingseagle67 at 14 Apr 2014 3.32pm Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.10pm Quote Willo at 13 Apr 2014 8.57pm Quote The Sash at 13 Apr 2014 8.46pm I thought Webb was yet again his usual self. His "Usual Self" has refereed an FA Cup Final, A Champions League Final, a World Cup final, in the Euro championships etc etc. You certainly don't get selected for such prestigious events if you are a somewhat less than capable referee. Yes and we all remember how well he refereed the WCF....he was booed getting his medal and had both sides moaning about his officiating, his League Cup Final ended in a 20 man brawl and at a local level his 'performance' at Selhurst against Saints was as atrocious as I have seen for a long time, as was he back in Feb when he refereed Liverpool v Arsenal and made such a pigs ear that Mark Halsey had to come out and defend him and tell him to concentrate more on his reffing rather than his after dinner speaking Thats his 'usual' self I can't argue with anything you have said there, and given the choice I would never have him referee another Palace game,but my point from the original post was that for me, having been to all the games at Selhurst this season, that was the best officiating I have seen. I know it doesn't say a lot, cos they are all pretty poor, but we all pretty much went into the match bemoaning the fact that it was Webb, but in my opinion he ended up putting in a pretty decent shift and I left the ground pleasantly suprised. We are all quick to jump on ref's backs when they are ballsing it up, but lets give them a bit of credit when they occasionally deserve it. I guess the thing is Hastings he has so much previous you simply dont know what you are going to get and thats the issue - he had a 'quiet' game by his standards and we had a very very decent pen shout turned down, another given in error and then him reversing it and him missing what was a sending off when we played Hull - and thats him having a quiet game As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote hastingseagle67 at 14 Apr 2014 3.32pm

Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.10pm

Quote Willo at 13 Apr 2014 8.57pm

Quote The Sash at 13 Apr 2014 8.46pm
I thought Webb was yet again his usual self.

Thats his 'usual' self

I guess the thing is Hastings he has so much previous you simply dont know what you are going to get and thats the issue - he had a 'quiet' game by his standards and we had a very very decent pen shout turned down, another given in error and then him reversing it and him missing what was a sending off when we played Hull - and thats him having a quiet game

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Apr 14 4.25pm
Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.54pm In your opinion - as this thread shows thats not a universally held one Well of course it's my opinion ! It might be held universally by the referees fraternity etc etc.And of course he hasn't been demoted !
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Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.54pm

In your opinion - as this thread shows thats not a universally held one

Well of course it's my opinion !
It might be held universally by the referees fraternity etc etc.And of course he hasn't been demoted !

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 14 Apr 14 6.01pm
Quote Willo at 14 Apr 2014 4.25pm Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.54pm In your opinion - as this thread shows thats not a universally held one Well of course it's my opinion ! It might be held universally by the referees fraternity etc etc[/b].And of course he hasn't been demoted ! None of which means a hill of beans As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote Willo at 14 Apr 2014 4.25pm

Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 3.54pm

In your opinion - as this thread shows thats not a universally held one

Well of course it's my opinion !
It might be held universally by the referees fraternity etc etc[/b].And of course he hasn't been demoted !

None of which means a hill of beans

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Apr 14 6.04pm
Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 6.01pm None of which means a hill of beans That's your opinion which I respect but don't agree with.
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Quote The Sash at 14 Apr 2014 6.01pm

None of which means a hill of beans

That's your opinion which I respect but don't agree with.

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Jordan555x Bromley 14 Apr 14 6.18pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 13 Apr 2014 4.09pm Ex-copper. Billy Big Bollocks. Unpredictable and inconsistent. Not as good as he thinks he is. Typical of most coppers/ex coppers. The Billy Big Bollocks trait is common in a lot of high ranking officers. When I look at Howard Webb he reminds me of my mate's step dad who is also an ex copper. Edited by Jordan555x (14 Apr 2014 6.21pm)
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Quote Cucking Funt at 13 Apr 2014 4.09pm

Ex-copper. Billy Big Bollocks. Unpredictable and inconsistent. Not as good as he thinks he is.

Typical of most coppers/ex coppers. The Billy Big Bollocks trait is common in a lot of high ranking officers.

When I look at Howard Webb he reminds me of my mate's step dad who is also an ex copper.

Edited by Jordan555x (14 Apr 2014 6.21pm)

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hastingseagle67 14 Apr 14 6.20pm
opinion is obviously divided over this, but nobody has actually managed to come out and say " no the best refereeing performance this year, was joe Bloggs against donkey united" or someone else. has resisted writing a single post on the Ross McCormack thread !!!
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opinion is obviously divided over this, but nobody has actually managed to come out and say " no the best refereeing performance this year, was joe Bloggs against donkey united" or someone else.

has resisted writing a single post on the Ross McCormack thread !!!

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Jordan555x Bromley 14 Apr 14 6.22pm
Quote hastingseagle67 at 14 Apr 2014 6.20pm opinion is obviously divided over this, but nobody has actually managed to come out and say " no the best refereeing performance this year, was joe Bloggs against donkey united" or someone else. I think Mark Clattenburg has done well when he has refereed in our games.
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Quote hastingseagle67 at 14 Apr 2014 6.20pm

opinion is obviously divided over this, but nobody has actually managed to come out and say " no the best refereeing performance this year, was joe Bloggs against donkey united" or someone else.

I think Mark Clattenburg has done well when he has refereed in our games.

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