August 2013: South London band The Eagles MK11, after years of gigging on the Championship circuit, finally release their first album.

It's a bit of a grower. Some tracks are stinkers (Fulham At Home, Holloway Tried His Best, How Do I pass The Ball Boss?) with a couple of gems (The Pulis Effect, John Terry's Head). Eventually reaches 14 in the charts.

Now comes that difficult second album (tentative title - Stuck In The Middle with Man U).

I think if we stay up this season, we'll be in the relegation battle next season. Stoke generally flirted around that zone, and a lot of the clubs who stay up the first year, struggle the second (Swansea, Reading, Birmingham, West Brom, Hull, Wolves etc etc).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Make no mistake about it, we'll be fighting relegation next season.

Sustainable growth means modest gains every year. Unsustainable growth (see LEEDS) means immediate success but then years if not decades of misery.

If we slowly and prudently improve the squad with players that fit our team then we will climb the table. I'd look at 2015/16 being a decent goal for a mid-table finish and maybe looking for a cup final too.

I know everyone wants things now or sooner, and the 'reach for the stars' mentality but you have to be careful. It is possible of course (see Southampton) but thats a rare set of circumstances and I'd even suggest they had to go into Div 3 to get there.

I'd rather take a season or 2 of struggling in the prem before climbing the table bit by bit, over aiming for Europe next year and then falling like a stone. The club will be in better shape and the future much brighter. After all I plan to be supporting them for at least the next 30 or 40 years...

You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue
Yours sincerely
Mile Jedinak

Interesting debate, a lot of if's to consider... Personally, I fully expect Palace to stay up from here with relative comfort and if Pulis stays I would expect a mid table finish next season. The man is a class act and knows what he is doing.

If this did happen I personally would find it a great shame and would probably stop going to Palace after 15 years. Mid table Premiership football is something I have feared for many a year and fear it could be the case with us soon. Who wants to be stuck in mid table each season with nothing to play for for the last 3 months of the season? (i.e Southampton and Newcastle this season). Only a season in the Europa League would change this for me, but I don't think it's realistic.

I prefer the old grounds with character, cheaper ticket prices and being able to buy a ticket for any game without worrying about having enough membership points. The atmosphere has changed this season for the worst, there is a new breed of Palace fan who moan when we're losing. Was much better last season when we roared the team to win from behind against Cardiff, Burnley, Charlton etc.

The quality of football will no doubt be better to watch, but what substitute is that for all the bad that comes with it? I guess that's a matter of opinion.

....Spppurs with all their hype, are a mid table club.

...us, everyone would die for it.

.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

realistic, I think. The days have gone where the Forests and Ipswich's can break into the top bracket but, for me, finishing 8th in the Premier League would be the equivalent of winning (and anything above 13th would be our 2nd best finish in 109 years!)

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

(Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)