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He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. So much misinformation, I really don't know where to start...so I'm not going to. I will answer that for you though, I was very pleased my team won promotion but still disliked Jordan, from the moment he and Coppell couldn't work together, I refused to buy anything other than a match ticket from the club, this I did until he thankfully was made bankrupt. It was nice having a half time pint, the first in ten years.
Jordan gave us a brilliant Youth Academy and with out that we wouldn't have had Zaha & co. I find it amazing that people hate Jordan more than Goldberg.
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Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 9.51am
He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. When CPFC2010 bought Palace it was from administration, SJ didn’t have any say in who it could be sold to, which in reality was going to be the highest bidder. Exactly the same as when SJ purchased the club, for too high a price IMO, from the administrators after the Goldberg debacle. who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg. Exactly, none of us know. If SJ didn't pay over the top for the club then perhaps a better businessman would have come in and taken over. Perhaps no one would have?
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Quote topcat at 19 Mar 2014 10.32am
Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 9.51am
He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. When CPFC2010 bought Palace it was from administration, SJ didn’t have any say in who it could be sold to, which in reality was going to be the highest bidder. Exactly the same as when SJ purchased the club, for too high a price IMO, from the administrators after the Goldberg debacle. who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg. Exactly, none of us know. If SJ didn't pay over the top for the club then perhaps a better businessman would have come in and taken over. Perhaps no one would have?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Mar 14 10.45am |
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Quote topcat at 19 Mar 2014 10.32am
Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 9.51am
He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. When CPFC2010 bought Palace it was from administration, SJ didn’t have any say in who it could be sold to, which in reality was going to be the highest bidder. Exactly the same as when SJ purchased the club, for too high a price IMO, from the administrators after the Goldberg debacle. who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg. Exactly, none of us know. If SJ didn't pay over the top for the club then perhaps a better businessman would have come in and taken over. Perhaps no one would have? No one had come forward by that point, and we'd been in administration for nearly a year. Based on that, I think it would be safe to assume that Jordon did essentially rescue us from an unknown fate, and then spent a considerable amount supporting the club. I tend to agree he paid too much, and if there was anyone else in the background planning to take over, they would have been happy to get us at a knockdown bargin price - but that would have had consequences beyond those we experienced.
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| sidman London 19 Mar 14 10.48am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Mar 2014 10.45am
Quote topcat at 19 Mar 2014 10.32am
Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 9.51am
He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. When CPFC2010 bought Palace it was from administration, SJ didn’t have any say in who it could be sold to, which in reality was going to be the highest bidder. Exactly the same as when SJ purchased the club, for too high a price IMO, from the administrators after the Goldberg debacle. who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg. Exactly, none of us know. If SJ didn't pay over the top for the club then perhaps a better businessman would have come in and taken over. Perhaps no one would have? No one had come forward by that point, and we'd been in administration for nearly a year. Based on that, I think it would be safe to assume that Jordon did essentially rescue us from an unknown fate, and then spent a considerable amount supporting the club. I tend to agree he paid too much, and if there was anyone else in the background planning to take over, they would have been happy to get us at a knockdown bargin price - but that would have had consequences beyond those we experienced.
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Quote Plane at 19 Mar 2014 9.38am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 3.57pm
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 10.35am
Say what you like about Jordan, but he spunked about £50M of his own money on Palace. Someone suggested he "royally screwed us".... wrong ..... he tried to be a benefactor, but his incompetence and arrogance were his downfall. I would look in Noades direction if want a culprit that "royally screwed us". How did he manage that, he never had £50m of his own money? I would bet you that he took out about as much as he put in and as we all know he was trying to borrow against the future youth players at the club. You needed to read some of the things that came out in the admin period, Jordan looked after one person and that was Jordan. Tell me the difference with Jordan taking money out of a club he owned and Noades doing exactly the same? Jordan's original investment, plus additional monies put into the club amounts to about £50M. As he eventually ended up with fcuk all, I would say his net investment was about £50M. Noades originally invested about £100K and ended up with £23M from Goldberg. Ignoring all the money he syphoned off whilst running the club, plus rent from Selhurst I would say he "royally screwed us". 2/10 poor effort. Just making things up to suit your argument does not make them facts. I can see that the principle doesn't matter to you, it's the size of the sum.
Even by his lower calculations Jordan lost a hell of an amount of his fortune following his dream. The amounts I quoted for Noades are pretty accurate. I can see that making a very minor point of order is more important to you than accepting the fact that Noades screwed us over and Jordan lost a fortune.
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| Plane Bromley 19 Mar 14 10.52am |
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Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 10.28am
Quote Plane at 19 Mar 2014 10.01am
Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 9.51am
He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. So much misinformation, I really don't know where to start...so I'm not going to. I will answer that for you though, I was very pleased my team won promotion but still disliked Jordan, from the moment he and Coppell couldn't work together, I refused to buy anything other than a match ticket from the club, this I did until he thankfully was made bankrupt. It was nice having a half time pint, the first in ten years.
Jordan gave us a brilliant Youth Academy and with out that we wouldn't have had Zaha & co. I find it amazing that people hate Jordan more than Goldberg. Topcat has put you right on that. You're right, we'll never know what happened between SC and SJ, I heard rumours but that's all they are but I know who I would trust and it isn't orange face. He didn't give us the academy, we've almost always had an academy and nurtured decent players, Jodan put in the bare minimum he could in order to get finances from the FA (I think), at best when the administrators came, as he didn't keep that account separate, was that he was putting circa £200k p/a into it, which is a bit different to the £1m he had always claimed. While we're discussing his lies, let's not forget the ground he bought! I dislike Jordan more perhaps because we saw so much more of him whereas we didn't get to see too much of Goldberg as he crashed and burnt really quickly, both cvnts in my book.
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| Plane Bromley 19 Mar 14 10.58am |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Mar 2014 10.50am
Quote Plane at 19 Mar 2014 9.38am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 3.57pm
Quote Plane at 18 Mar 2014 1.30pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 10.35am
Say what you like about Jordan, but he spunked about £50M of his own money on Palace. Someone suggested he "royally screwed us".... wrong ..... he tried to be a benefactor, but his incompetence and arrogance were his downfall. I would look in Noades direction if want a culprit that "royally screwed us". How did he manage that, he never had £50m of his own money? I would bet you that he took out about as much as he put in and as we all know he was trying to borrow against the future youth players at the club. You needed to read some of the things that came out in the admin period, Jordan looked after one person and that was Jordan. Tell me the difference with Jordan taking money out of a club he owned and Noades doing exactly the same? Jordan's original investment, plus additional monies put into the club amounts to about £50M. As he eventually ended up with fcuk all, I would say his net investment was about £50M. Noades originally invested about £100K and ended up with £23M from Goldberg. Ignoring all the money he syphoned off whilst running the club, plus rent from Selhurst I would say he "royally screwed us". 2/10 poor effort. Just making things up to suit your argument does not make them facts. I can see that the principle doesn't matter to you, it's the size of the sum.
Even by his lower calculations Jordan lost a hell of an amount of his fortune following his dream. The amounts I quoted for Noades are pretty accurate. I can see that making a very minor point of order is more important to you than accepting the fact that Noades screwed us over and Jordan lost a fortune. No need for such aggression. How romantic, following his dream. Maybe you need to look at his other business ventures to see where the money went, he didn't loose his place in Spain an he didn't loose his cars, so I have zero sympathy for him.
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| Plane Bromley 19 Mar 14 11.02am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Mar 2014 10.45am
Quote topcat at 19 Mar 2014 10.32am
Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 9.51am
He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. When CPFC2010 bought Palace it was from administration, SJ didn’t have any say in who it could be sold to, which in reality was going to be the highest bidder. Exactly the same as when SJ purchased the club, for too high a price IMO, from the administrators after the Goldberg debacle. who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg. Exactly, none of us know. If SJ didn't pay over the top for the club then perhaps a better businessman would have come in and taken over. Perhaps no one would have? No one had come forward by that point, and we'd been in administration for nearly a year. Based on that, I think it would be safe to assume that Jordon did essentially rescue us from an unknown fate, and then spent a considerable amount supporting the club. I tend to agree he paid too much, and if there was anyone else in the background planning to take over, they would have been happy to get us at a knockdown bargin price - but that would have had consequences beyond those we experienced. Don't forget that when bought the club, ITV digital (I think) was about to inject millions into the leagues below the prem and Jordan wanted in on that , fair enough, he obviously did his viability figures based on that cash injection and had no plan B.
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| Hoof Hearted 19 Mar 14 11.04am | |
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Quote Plane at 19 Mar 2014 10.58am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Mar 2014 10.50am
Quote Plane at 19 Mar 2014 9.38am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 3.57pm
Quote Plane at 18 Mar 2014 1.30pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 10.35am
Say what you like about Jordan, but he spunked about £50M of his own money on Palace. Someone suggested he "royally screwed us".... wrong ..... he tried to be a benefactor, but his incompetence and arrogance were his downfall. I would look in Noades direction if want a culprit that "royally screwed us". How did he manage that, he never had £50m of his own money? I would bet you that he took out about as much as he put in and as we all know he was trying to borrow against the future youth players at the club. You needed to read some of the things that came out in the admin period, Jordan looked after one person and that was Jordan. Tell me the difference with Jordan taking money out of a club he owned and Noades doing exactly the same? Jordan's original investment, plus additional monies put into the club amounts to about £50M. As he eventually ended up with fcuk all, I would say his net investment was about £50M. Noades originally invested about £100K and ended up with £23M from Goldberg. Ignoring all the money he syphoned off whilst running the club, plus rent from Selhurst I would say he "royally screwed us". 2/10 poor effort. Just making things up to suit your argument does not make them facts. I can see that the principle doesn't matter to you, it's the size of the sum.
Even by his lower calculations Jordan lost a hell of an amount of his fortune following his dream. The amounts I quoted for Noades are pretty accurate. I can see that making a very minor point of order is more important to you than accepting the fact that Noades screwed us over and Jordan lost a fortune. No need for such aggression. How romantic, following his dream. Maybe you need to look at his other business ventures to see where the money went, he didn't loose his place in Spain an he didn't loose his cars, so I have zero sympathy for him.
I see from your other unhinged replies to other posters that you have a problem with Jordan. Calling him orange face and refusing to buy a pint at half time during his tenure doesn't give me confidence that you will listen to reason. And by the way it is LOSE not loose.
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| Plane Bromley 19 Mar 14 11.04am |
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Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 10.41am
Quote topcat at 19 Mar 2014 10.32am
Quote sidman at 19 Mar 2014 9.51am
He lost millions and yes he did f**k up, but if Ron Noades hadn't stitched Goldberg Jordan wouldn't have needed to come in and save Palace. At least Jordan sold Palace to people who could run the club and cared about our future, but where Noades was only after money. This is what pisses me off with people who hate Jordan, who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg, he took us to the PL and I bet all of you haters f**king loved him then. Yes he was a bit of a dick and screwed up, but it's not like he meant to do it and if certain things went his way it would have been ok. At the end of the day you have to give him some respect for what he did and at least he stood up what he believed in. When CPFC2010 bought Palace it was from administration, SJ didn’t have any say in who it could be sold to, which in reality was going to be the highest bidder. Exactly the same as when SJ purchased the club, for too high a price IMO, from the administrators after the Goldberg debacle. who knows were we would be if Jordan didn't buy Palace from Goldberg. Exactly, none of us know. If SJ didn't pay over the top for the club then perhaps a better businessman would have come in and taken over. Perhaps no one would have?
Just another one in Jordan's dodgy deals.
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| Plane Bromley 19 Mar 14 11.09am |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Mar 2014 11.04am
Quote Plane at 19 Mar 2014 10.58am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Mar 2014 10.50am
Quote Plane at 19 Mar 2014 9.38am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 3.57pm
Quote Plane at 18 Mar 2014 1.30pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Mar 2014 10.35am
Say what you like about Jordan, but he spunked about £50M of his own money on Palace. Someone suggested he "royally screwed us".... wrong ..... he tried to be a benefactor, but his incompetence and arrogance were his downfall. I would look in Noades direction if want a culprit that "royally screwed us". How did he manage that, he never had £50m of his own money? I would bet you that he took out about as much as he put in and as we all know he was trying to borrow against the future youth players at the club. You needed to read some of the things that came out in the admin period, Jordan looked after one person and that was Jordan. Tell me the difference with Jordan taking money out of a club he owned and Noades doing exactly the same? Jordan's original investment, plus additional monies put into the club amounts to about £50M. As he eventually ended up with fcuk all, I would say his net investment was about £50M. Noades originally invested about £100K and ended up with £23M from Goldberg. Ignoring all the money he syphoned off whilst running the club, plus rent from Selhurst I would say he "royally screwed us". 2/10 poor effort. Just making things up to suit your argument does not make them facts. I can see that the principle doesn't matter to you, it's the size of the sum.
Even by his lower calculations Jordan lost a hell of an amount of his fortune following his dream. The amounts I quoted for Noades are pretty accurate. I can see that making a very minor point of order is more important to you than accepting the fact that Noades screwed us over and Jordan lost a fortune. No need for such aggression. How romantic, following his dream. Maybe you need to look at his other business ventures to see where the money went, he didn't loose his place in Spain an he didn't loose his cars, so I have zero sympathy for him.
I see from your other unhinged replies to other posters that you have a problem with Jordan. Calling him orange face and refusing to buy a pint at half time during his tenure doesn't give me confidence that you will listen to reason. And by the way it is LOSE not loose. If I had written that it would be a yellow. Again you're not replying to anything I say but I really don't expect much else from you. Respect has to be earned, in true Hol style you pull up a typo, well done, you must be pleased with yourself.
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