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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 20 6.43am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You discect everything dont you. To the empth degree. He's not stupid. It's about worldview and what kind of world you think works both in practicality and what you feel communion with. It's also about money....so essentially self interest, which changes perspective significantly. I can safely say that none of my views benefit me financially....it's purely based upon the future for my children.
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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 20 6.46am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I agree, I don’t hate people for having different views to me on anything (unless they support Brighton), hate is a very strong word. I disagree, I get annoyed when people fail to accept that they might just be wrong or retort in a patronising tone but never hate. That comes across. It's a sign of maturity.
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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 20 6.50am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
I think we need to let local areas decide what level of policing they require. The technology exists now to allow for far more local democracy to take place on a postcode by postcode basis. So if the majority of people in a specific area do not want any stop & search, then so be it. In fact if they want no policing at all, who is somebody who lives outside that area to interfere? Make the response to crime far more sensitive to the level of policing desired by the local community. Then the police can truly be thought of as having the local community support. It is clear that a one-size fits all approach is not working so let's try and ensure that people have more input into the process. After all who does not want more community involvement in such matters? Agreed. Decentralization brings accountability closer to the people organisations serve. Let certain communities police themselves.....bingo, end of the 'racism' shakedown. Because that's what it all is....a shakedown.
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Spiderman Horsham 05 Jun 20 7.06am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He's not stupid. It's about worldview and what kind of world you think works both in practicality and what you feel communion with. It's also about money....so essentially self interest, which changes perspective significantly. I can safely say that none of my views benefit me financially....it's purely based upon the future for my children. Are you actually me? My thoughts exactly
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Spiderman Horsham 05 Jun 20 7.06am | |
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Thank you kind sir
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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jun 20 7.14am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
So if the majority of people in a specific area do not want any stop & search, then so be it. In fact if they want no policing at all, who is somebody who lives outside that area to interfere? Make the response to crime far more sensitive to the level of policing desired by the local community. Then the police can truly be thought of as having the local community support. It is clear that a one-size fits all approach is not working so let's try and ensure that people have more input into the process. After all who does not want more community involvement in such matters? But that is how it works in America now. Law enforcement is very very local and the police are controlled by the local politicians. This is what I don't get black people complain that police brutality has gone on for ever yet in many cases, in their areas, they are either the majority or a sizable minority. So year after year decade after decade they vote for the same do nothing local politicians like a Mayor or country Sheriff. If black people really want change they need to do this at the ballot box and start telling the politicians that their vote is contingent on reform of local policing. Edited by Badger11 (05 Jun 2020 7.15am)
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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jun 20 7.20am | |
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Candace Owens talking a lot of sense she doesn't defend the police officers but attacks BLM. Well worth a listen. [Tweet Link]
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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jun 20 7.26am | |
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The Mayor of Minneapolis sobs at the coffin of Floyd. As Mayor is he not politically responsible for the police in his city?
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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 20 7.42am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The Mayor of Minneapolis sobs at the coffin of Floyd. As Mayor is he not politically responsible for the police in his city? It doesn't matter. White cops dealing with blacks is all it needs. It's never going to change while that continues. Whereas I believe you think reason can work. Personally I think that stage was passed long ago. Owens is going to be a leader within the future Republican party but there isn't going to be any serious movement of blacks away from the Democrats, apart from entrepreneurs and pro whites.....For the vast majority the Democrats are their perceived meal ticket. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2020 7.46am)
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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jun 20 8.04am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It doesn't matter. White cops dealing with blacks is all it needs. It's never going to change while that continues. Whereas I believe you think reason can work. Personally I think that stage was passed long ago. Owens is going to be a leader within the future Republican party but there isn't going to be any serious movement of blacks away from the Democrats, apart from entrepreneurs and pro whites.....For the vast majority the Democrats are their perceived meal ticket. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2020 7.46am) Maybe I am more optimistic that you are in any case I am more confused not at the anger but who they are blaming. The Democrats are doing a nice little shoe shuffle when in reality they more than anyone are responsible. If the Parish council decides to close the local library on a Wednesday you don't blame Boris. It will be interesting to see what happens in the November elections at a local level. Will black people rubber stamp the same do nothing politicians or will start using their vote. It doesn't mean they have to vote Republican and not all Democrats are bad and of course there are also independents.
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dannyboy1978 05 Jun 20 8.12am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Candace Owens talking a lot of sense she doesn't defend the police officers but attacks BLM. Well worth a listen. [Tweet Link] She speaks so much sence, well worth watching and keep with it as the figures she states are startling
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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 20 8.17am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Maybe I am more optimistic that you are in any case I am more confused not at the anger but who they are blaming. The Democrats are doing a nice little shoe shuffle when in reality they more than anyone are responsible. If the Parish council decides to close the local library on a Wednesday you don't blame Boris. It will be interesting to see what happens in the November elections at a local level. Will black people rubber stamp the same do nothing politicians or will start using their vote. It doesn't mean they have to vote Republican and not all Democrats are bad and of course there are also independents. Of course they will. It's about blaming white society for their problems. It isn't going to change. It ensures ever more concessions and power shifts. What leads you to be optimistic?
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