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Stirlingsays 09 Nov 23 12.30pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
How did they ever make such a loose cannon Home Secretary. She must be doing it deliberately. Now the police are biased as is anybody who thinks she is an imbecile. 'Armistice Day organisers in favour of pro-Palestine march'. Pointless posturing from Sunak, and her spreading division and hatred, just another week of this complete shower of an administration. Dude, you're a self avowed communist...I have no issue with that.....but since you said that how can you be against division and 'hatred'? Oh yes I remember....it's division and hatred for what you don't like....Not what the other side likes. So really you're fine with 'division and hatred'.
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Glazier#1 09 Nov 23 1.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Dude, you're a self avowed communist...I have no issue with that.....but since you said that how can you be against division and 'hatred'? Oh yes I remember....it's division and hatred for what you don't like....Not what the other side likes. So really you're fine with 'division and hatred'. Stirling, Have you ever been convinced by anyone to change or re-evualuate your views on anything?
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Stirlingsays 09 Nov 23 1.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Stirling, Have you ever been convinced by anyone to change or re-evualuate your views on anything?
Sure, probably more than yourself. As a young man I supported the Labour party. Let's see, I use to be pro abortion, I use to be a Christian. I use to be very pro American foreign policy in general. I was a neo con who supported the Iraq war. Yes, I'd say I was a normie conservative until I was redpilled around 2016.
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Glazier#1 09 Nov 23 2.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sure, probably more than yourself. As a young man I supported the Labour party. Let's see, I use to be pro abortion, I use to be a Christian. I use to be very pro American foreign policy in general. I was a neo con who supported the Iraq war. Yes, I'd say I was a normie conservative until I was redpilled around 2016. Interesting. Redpilled?
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Stirlingsays 09 Nov 23 3.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Interesting. Redpilled?
Nope, by this guy. [Tweet Link]
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BrentisBack Beckenham 09 Nov 23 3.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Dude, you're a self avowed communist...I have no issue with that.....but since you said that how can you be against division and 'hatred'? Oh yes I remember....it's division and hatred for what you don't like....Not what the other side likes. So really you're fine with 'division and hatred'. Stirling, Another question. Are you actually for hatred and division? You certainly project that you are. Before you answer that, I'd just like to add, that if you are, it's a very bizzare way to live your life and it's much easier and nicer to be nice and welcoming to all regardless of their colour or creed. You should give it a go sometime.
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Stirlingsays 09 Nov 23 3.52pm | |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
Stirling, Another question. Are you actually for hatred and division? You certainly project that you are. Before you answer that, I'd just like to add, that if you are, it's a very bizzare way to live your life and it's much easier and nicer to be nice and welcoming to all regardless of their colour or creed. You should give it a go sometime. You first.
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silvertop Portishead 09 Nov 23 5.14pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
How did they ever make such a loose cannon Home Secretary. She must be doing it deliberately. Now the police are biased as is anybody who thinks she is an imbecile. 'Armistice Day organisers in favour of pro-Palestine march'. Pointless posturing from Sunak, and her spreading division and hatred, just another week of this complete shower of an administration. The police banned the right wing march through Tower Hamlets as it would probably have sparked a riot. They did not ban the march on Saturday as great care has been taken to avoids any flashpoints. Time, of course, will tell... That is, the law and guidelines were followed on each occasion. No police bias at all. So, why did she say what she said? Answer, to appeal to the right (including many who post on here) and position herself as the populist right leader to succeed Sunak after the electorate hand him his a*se next year. Nothing more than self-promotion, with little care about the consequences beyond her own interests. She is the caked-on bottom of a very nasty barrel. The question is, will far right populists lionize and follow a woman of South Asian extraction?
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Stirlingsays 09 Nov 23 5.31pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
The police banned the right wing march through Tower Hamlets as it would probably have sparked a riot. They did not ban the march on Saturday as great care has been taken to avoids any flashpoints. Time, of course, will tell... That is, the law and guidelines were followed on each occasion. No police bias at all. So, why did she say what she said? Answer, to appeal to the right (including many who post on here) and position herself as the populist right leader to succeed Sunak after the electorate hand him his a*se next year. Nothing more than self-promotion, with little care about the consequences beyond her own interests. She is the caked-on bottom of a very nasty barrel. The question is, will far right populists lionize and follow a woman of South Asian extraction? Perhaps the people who imported these foreigners over decades didn't have any interests other than their own agendas as well?....blaming people who object to having their culture and history trashed seems a tad harsh don't you think. Foreigners from significantly different cultures don’t just arrive as blank slates, you are also importing all of their ethnic grievances. The people who sold 'integration' were mostly selling fantasy to the gullible.
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silvertop Portishead 09 Nov 23 5.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Perhaps the people who imported these foreigners over decades didn't have any interests other than their own agendas as well?....blaming people who object to having their culture and history trashed seems a tad harsh don't you think. Foreigners from significantly different cultures don’t just arrive as blank slates, you are also importing all of their ethnic grievances. The people who sold 'integration' were mostly selling fantasy to the gullible. After a second world war, with the nation exhausted and impoverished, the people were sold, as some reward, the NHS and cradle-to-grave welfare protection. Some thought was given to how it would be financed; but insufficient thought was given to who would do the work. Step forward the Windrush generation. Then, we tried to rejuvenate our ailing manufacturing base through public ownership. Arise the great people of South Asia to work our nationalized factories on the cheap. On neither occasion was this sold as some multicultural fantasy but more a needs must if you want it all. This created communities from those countries at a time when distant travel was expensive and difficult. They, in turn, acted as magnets for economic migrants from those countries a generation later when travel was much easier. This has only then been retrospectively justified on some rainbow utopia because the numbers are here and the flow in cannot be stemmed. The fantasy words that you allude to mask a resignation that this is where were are, so let's accentuate the positives. That is, what choice do we have?
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georgenorman 09 Nov 23 6.24pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
After a second world war, with the nation exhausted and impoverished, the people were sold, as some reward, the NHS and cradle-to-grave welfare protection. Some thought was given to how it would be financed; but insufficient thought was given to who would do the work. Step forward the Windrush generation. Then, we tried to rejuvenate our ailing manufacturing base through public ownership. Arise the great people of South Asia to work our nationalized factories on the cheap. On neither occasion was this sold as some multicultural fantasy but more a needs must if you want it all. This created communities from those countries at a time when distant travel was expensive and difficult. They, in turn, acted as magnets for economic migrants from those countries a generation later when travel was much easier. This has only then been retrospectively justified on some rainbow utopia because the numbers are here and the flow in cannot be stemmed. The fantasy words that you allude to mask a resignation that this is where were are, so let's accentuate the positives. That is, what choice do we have? It is utter nonsense to say that post-war recovery and rebuilding was due to immigration. You could just as well say, despite of it.
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silvertop Portishead 09 Nov 23 8.02pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It is utter nonsense to say that post-war recovery and rebuilding was due to immigration. You could just as well say, despite of it. I didn't say that. I said there was a policy decision to bring in cheap labour from the Commonwealth to staff it. As to whether it was "due", I don't have the evidence. I do, however, think there is a case for you reading what you want to read rather than what is actually written.
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