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Spiderman Horsham 14 Jul 20 6.51am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
That's it free petrol, I won't wear a mask so what a shame I won't be allowed in after I have filled up Will be expensive petrol if you get the threatened £100 fine
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Stirlingsays 14 Jul 20 7.02am | |
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Another abuse of civil liberties.
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dannyboy1978 14 Jul 20 7.05am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Will be expensive petrol if you get the threatened £100 fine They can bring their card machine to me then.
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dannyboy1978 14 Jul 20 7.07am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
You previously seemed to suggest there was nothing wrong with the conditions these workers lived in, indeed your daughter spent a summer doing similar work. It's almost like they don't like having the police near by, wonder why!!
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Spiderman Horsham 14 Jul 20 8.10am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
It's almost like they don't like having the police near by, wonder why!! Beer and cigarettes! Paid for by the tax payer? I suspect so, shame the owners of the farm who openly employ slave labour aren’t being held responsible.
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dannyboy1978 14 Jul 20 8.14am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Beer and cigarettes! Paid for by the tax payer? I suspect so, shame the owners of the farm who openly employ slave labour aren’t being held responsible. And the media need to highlight this more instead of picking up on the BLM all the time which is about slavery hundred of years ago.(one aspect)
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Spiderman Horsham 14 Jul 20 8.20am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
And the media need to highlight this more instead of picking up on the BLM all the time which is about slavery hundred of years ago.(one aspect) Because it doesn’t affect them! POW camp? or Butlins Less than 15 miles to Malvern, which has a population of 29000 with an average age in excess of 46 Edited by Spiderman (14 Jul 2020 8.22am) Attachment: 182A8E44-0DDF-4D92-900D-8609DEB82484.jpeg (110.15Kb)
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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jul 20 8.30am | |
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I donated blood yesterday, masks were mandatory and rightly so. It was quite comical they ask you a series of questions I was struggling to understand them and they were struggling to understand my replies like a conversation with a deaf relative. Then you have to drink lots of fluids but of course you're wearing a mask which I forgot when I put cup to mouth. The nurses are doing the best they can but this is the new world we live in. Keep safe everyone. Edited by Badger11 (14 Jul 2020 8.31am)
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Mapletree Croydon 14 Jul 20 8.34am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
You previously seemed to suggest there was nothing wrong with the conditions these workers lived in, indeed your daughter spent a summer doing similar work. I have no view on their conditions, especially as they relate to SARS-COV2. I have shared accommodation when working overseas. Perhaps you had better let the Army know your views on dormitories. It seems the obvious rationale of creating multiple ’bubbles’ was not followed.
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Spiderman Horsham 14 Jul 20 8.41am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I have no view on their conditions, especially as they relate to SARS-COV2. I have shared accommodation when working overseas. Perhaps you had better let the Army know your views on dormitories. It seems the obvious rationale of creating multiple ’bubbles’ was not followed. I would imagine many people on here have shared accommodation over the years but hardly in the same circumstances! These workers were exempt from testing on arrival and accommodated in less than ideal circumstances.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jul 20 10.10am | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Who's 'they'? You would benefit from reading the body of research that's out there about masks. Make mistakes for yourself, not at other peoples expense. In any case, our opinions are both irrelevant from the 26th July. You can complain about masks to your hearts content while you're wearing one. It opened two days ago didn't it? As for immunity, we have no idea how long that lasts. Some recent research suggests it might be short lived, which would limit the effectiveness of herd immunity, but immunity is complicated and multifactorial so the jury is out. Hopefully it lasts years in which case we might see the back of it. The very best approach in the presence of several unknowns is to take sensible steps that are thought to keep the spread down and to avoid high numbers to begin with. Good hygiene, mask wearing in busy settings where it's viable - public transport, shops - and so on. That's how you keep businesses open and that's how you save lives of people deserving of our consideration in the process.
My conscience is clear seeing as people who know they’re vulnerable stay ‘safe’ as people put it. And there are plenty of older people who’ve given up on social distancing and all this rubbish so don’t expect everyone to wear masks or even enforce them. They may do in supermarkets with the draconian bollox at the door and that’s about it. If you have someone in a shop that sells clothing items for £50-£100 an item minimum, they aren’t going to enforce this after a short time when whatever it takes makes them realise the customers spending means they have a job and they forget the power trip some of them may have, but apparently that’s Tesco, which was welcome in April I’ll admit, but not now. Who’s they? I’ll find the research findings, if I can be bothered. I think it’s even on government websites. It was well documented months ago the pieces of cloth MIGHT only keep 18% of particles in. What’s the advised type of face covering they’re advising that keeps our these particles? What’s the material made of? Where is it sourced from? What were the controls on this experiment? It’s absurd. You and others seem to have forgotten that this diseases hospitalises and kills mainly old people or people with serious health conditions, who know they have to isolate. But because they either haven’t or won’t isolate you are in the group of people who think we should ruin everyone and everything. I agree on the hygiene, which is really the only worthwhile thing doing. Away from home I don’t touch my eyes, nose or mouth with my hands unless they’ve just been washed. But face cloths are pointless, and what happens when a cloth or scarf wearer barely protecting anyone else touches the token piece of cloth and then touches areas of the shop with his hands, including the card payment machine, which aren’t cleaned at the supermarket. Virtually nothing is apart from the token nonsense at the front door, which does serve one purpose, keeping the numbers inside low and the queues low, which is exactly what will happen with shops. It’ll kill off businesses. All for a virus people don’t know they have it’s so dangerous, the people we know who’re at risk but we somehow need to close everything down or discourage everyone from going to bring closure closer. The denial about the damage this is doing would be hilarious if it wasn’t going to be so bad. I hope nobody on here has young adult offspring. Middle aged people could face redundancy as well.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jul 20 10.12am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I donated blood yesterday, masks were mandatory and rightly so. It was quite comical they ask you a series of questions I was struggling to understand them and they were struggling to understand my replies like a conversation with a deaf relative. Then you have to drink lots of fluids but of course you're wearing a mask which I forgot when I put cup to mouth. The nurses are doing the best they can but this is the new world we live in. Keep safe everyone. Edited by Badger11 (14 Jul 2020 8.31am) They should have FFP masks on to avoid this nonsense of people coming in wearing a pointless piece of cloth that can contaminate the place after touching that and the furniture. Or one of those face shields you wear on a minefield.
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