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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Oct 23 12.08pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The banks are the real winners of the last of the last 13 years, after the crash which their recklessness caused and they were bailed out by us, how they have prospered at others expense, the BOE in particular has a battered reputation as to its competence. Many of those in such dire straits will have had their misery compounded by the austerity of the past 13 years, and cuts to benefits and public services made in the wake of the giant crash of 2008 – caused by the same class of bankers, now enjoying limitless bonuses. Even Thatcher was not amused by them and capped their piggery. All this is happening under a fabulously wealthy prime minister who was formerly an investment banker. who was himself instrumental in the RBS failure. 'The unacceptable face of capitalism'.
Britain's economy without the financial sector?
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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Oct 23 12.27pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Britain's economy without the financial sector? Exactly. The Financial sector has been the back bone of the economy since 1945 propping the rest of the economy up whilst the politicians failed to address the decline in manufacturing and the Commanding Heights. We may not like them and they have certainly cost us money but unlike steel, cars, BT, BA, mining, shipping they have contributed more to the economy that it has cost us. But hey lets get rid of them I'm sure well still be able to afford the NHS and welfare state no problem.
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Oct 23 12.37pm | |
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I did not post that the UK would not have a financial sector.
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Oct 23 12.59pm | |
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A devastating poll commissioned by GB News (my favourite source of impartial info - thank you Ofcom). Labour almost thirty points ahead of the Conservatives, just days after Rishi Sunak faced a bruising double-defeat in the Mid Bedfordshire and Tamworth by-elections and his landlord and banker handouts.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 26 Oct 23 1.01pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The banks are the real winners of the last of the last 13 years, after the crash which their recklessness caused and they were bailed out by us, how they have prospered at others expense, the BOE in particular has a battered reputation as to its competence. Many of those in such dire straits will have had their misery compounded by the austerity of the past 13 years, and cuts to benefits and public services made in the wake of the giant crash of 2008 – caused by the same class of bankers, now enjoying limitless bonuses. Even Thatcher was not amused by them and capped their piggery. All this is happening under a fabulously wealthy prime minister who was formerly an investment banker. who was himself instrumental in the RBS failure. 'The unacceptable face of capitalism'.
Estimated by who? This is a meaningless thing to write.
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Stirlingsays 26 Oct 23 1.04pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The banks are the real winners of the last of the last 13 years, after the crash which their recklessness caused and they were bailed out by us, how they have prospered at others expense, the BOE in particular has a battered reputation as to its competence. Many of those in such dire straits will have had their misery compounded by the austerity of the past 13 years, and cuts to benefits and public services made in the wake of the giant crash of 2008 – caused by the same class of bankers, now enjoying limitless bonuses. Even Thatcher was not amused by them and capped their piggery. All this is happening under a fabulously wealthy prime minister who was formerly an investment banker. who was himself instrumental in the RBS failure. 'The unacceptable face of capitalism'.
While I don't agree with you that we have had anything like 'austerity'.....as essentially that myth is based upon where we would be if things had just continued going well. However, where I would agree with you is in blaming the banking system....it's not the only area of blame but the international banking system, its forms of working and regulation are behind a lot of the decline and wealth transfer that common people have suffered. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Oct 2023 1.05pm)
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 26 Oct 23 1.07pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Estimated by who? This is a meaningless thing to write. Here you go: "An estimated 1.8m UK households containing nearly 3.8 million people, including 1 million children, were destitute at some point in 2022, according to the study, published by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation (JRF). Half of destitute households tried to get by on less than £85 a week after housing costs, with a quarter reporting no income at all. Destitution is defined as the inability to meet basic physical needs to stay warm, dry, clean and fed, either because of a lack of clothing, heating, shelter or food, or because household income falls below a minimum level after housing costs – ranging from £95 a week for a single adult to £205 a week for a couple with two children. The study, the latest in a series tracking the phenomenon since 2015, also interviewed people about their experiences of destitution. It found: Adults reported a frequent inability to afford more than one meal a day, often going without to ensure their children could eat. Nearly two-thirds (61%) said they had gone hungry in the past month. There was heavy reliance on food banks or relatives for groceries. More than half of destitute adults (51%) regularly went without toiletries such as shampoo and toothpaste, as well as hygiene and cleaning products, often relying on food banks for these items. One respondent had to borrow money to buy incontinence pads for her disabled daughter. New clothing and footwear “were essential items that people simply did not buy at all”, the study concluded, with many adult respondents wearing worn-out clothes, and only buying new clothes – such as school uniforms and trainers – for their children. Destitution – once largely limited to immigrants ineligible for social security support – was now predominantly experienced by UK nationals in receipt of welfare benefits, and increasingly by families, the study revealed. One in 10 destitute households included working adults." I certainly don't think it's meaningless.
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cryrst The garden of England 26 Oct 23 3.27pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Here you go: "An estimated 1.8m UK households containing nearly 3.8 million people, including 1 million children, were destitute at some point in 2022, according to the study, published by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation (JRF). Half of destitute households tried to get by on less than £85 a week after housing costs, with a quarter reporting no income at all. Destitution is defined as the inability to meet basic physical needs to stay warm, dry, clean and fed, either because of a lack of clothing, heating, shelter or food, or because household income falls below a minimum level after housing costs – ranging from £95 a week for a single adult to £205 a week for a couple with two children. The study, the latest in a series tracking the phenomenon since 2015, also interviewed people about their experiences of destitution. It found: Adults reported a frequent inability to afford more than one meal a day, often going without to ensure their children could eat. Nearly two-thirds (61%) said they had gone hungry in the past month. There was heavy reliance on food banks or relatives for groceries. More than half of destitute adults (51%) regularly went without toiletries such as shampoo and toothpaste, as well as hygiene and cleaning products, often relying on food banks for these items. One respondent had to borrow money to buy incontinence pads for her disabled daughter. New clothing and footwear “were essential items that people simply did not buy at all”, the study concluded, with many adult respondents wearing worn-out clothes, and only buying new clothes – such as school uniforms and trainers – for their children. Destitution – once largely limited to immigrants ineligible for social security support – was now predominantly experienced by UK nationals in receipt of welfare benefits, and increasingly by families, the study revealed. One in 10 destitute households included working adults." I certainly don't think it's meaningless. Maybe it’s the immigrants who should be given less when they arrive illegally which would allow more to our own. You quoted it without including immigrants in the destitute bracket.
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Oct 23 10.45pm | |
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Water firms’ £1.4bn shareholder payouts branded ‘sickening’ amid sewage spills. And large increases in water bills to pay them for their own failures. Not that they will actually do anything about them.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 26 Oct 23 10.58pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Here you go: "An estimated 1.8m UK households containing nearly 3.8 million people, including 1 million children, were destitute at some point in 2022, according to the study, published by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation (JRF). Half of destitute households tried to get by on less than £85 a week after housing costs, with a quarter reporting no income at all. Destitution is defined as the inability to meet basic physical needs to stay warm, dry, clean and fed, either because of a lack of clothing, heating, shelter or food, or because household income falls below a minimum level after housing costs – ranging from £95 a week for a single adult to £205 a week for a couple with two children. The study, the latest in a series tracking the phenomenon since 2015, also interviewed people about their experiences of destitution. It found: Adults reported a frequent inability to afford more than one meal a day, often going without to ensure their children could eat. Nearly two-thirds (61%) said they had gone hungry in the past month. There was heavy reliance on food banks or relatives for groceries. More than half of destitute adults (51%) regularly went without toiletries such as shampoo and toothpaste, as well as hygiene and cleaning products, often relying on food banks for these items. One respondent had to borrow money to buy incontinence pads for her disabled daughter. New clothing and footwear “were essential items that people simply did not buy at all”, the study concluded, with many adult respondents wearing worn-out clothes, and only buying new clothes – such as school uniforms and trainers – for their children. Destitution – once largely limited to immigrants ineligible for social security support – was now predominantly experienced by UK nationals in receipt of welfare benefits, and increasingly by families, the study revealed. One in 10 destitute households included working adults." I certainly don't think it's meaningless. My use of " meaningless " was to use a number without support of source in the original post. I now know where the number comes from , the JRF.
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cryrst The garden of England 27 Oct 23 12.07am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Water firms’ £1.4bn shareholder payouts branded ‘sickening’ amid sewage spills. And large increases in water bills to pay them for their own failures. Not that they will actually do anything about them.
You had better find a decent tailor because when your lot get in the humble pie you will need to eat is going to increase your waist size dramatically
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HKOwen Hong Kong 27 Oct 23 12.27am | |
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I always disagreed with the privatisation of water. The problem is and was , how to pay for the modernisation required to a system hundreds of years old in some cases. The private companies have just fleeced everyone. This is not a party political issue it is a national issue. The pollution caused and allowed is a disgrace. What to do going forward is the most important question, we need at least a thirty year plan.
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