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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 09 Dec 16 4.47pm
Originally posted by matt_himself The argument that we have '...no place at the EU table when decisions are taken....' is interesting. As far as I am concerned the EU is run by a German/French axis, whom appoint unelected commissioners to do their bidding. The lack of democracy, openness and fairness in the EU was one of the main reasons I voted Leave. I don't have a strong view on who has most influence within the EU, but certainly the UK can expect to have less outside it that it does now. Just curious though, if we did see a deal which was membership in all but name, is that something you'd be happy with? I can see your concerns about corruption and catering for the multinationals, I'm wondering if being run by a different elite will necessarily make any difference to that. A one and a two...
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tome

Inner Tantalus Time. 09 Dec 16 4.47pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

The argument that we have '...no place at the EU table when decisions are taken....' is interesting.

As far as I am concerned the EU is run by a German/French axis, whom appoint unelected commissioners to do their bidding.

The lack of democracy, openness and fairness in the EU was one of the main reasons I voted Leave.

I don't have a strong view on who has most influence within the EU, but certainly the UK can expect to have less outside it that it does now.

Just curious though, if we did see a deal which was membership in all but name, is that something you'd be happy with?

I can see your concerns about corruption and catering for the multinationals, I'm wondering if being run by a different elite will necessarily make any difference to that.

A one and a two...

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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Dec 16 4.47pm
Originally posted by matt_himself I had lunch at Simpsons in Cornhill today and one of my fellow diners was Nigel Farage. What a wonderful Christmas! Elitist. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Dec 16 4.47pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

I had lunch at Simpsons in Cornhill today and one of my fellow diners was Nigel Farage.

What a wonderful Christmas!

Elitist.

Big chest and massive boobs

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matt_himself Matataland 09 Dec 16 4.55pm
Originally posted by chris123 That's the Strand surely? Simpsons on Cornhill is a delight. It is also the dining venue for our irregular Holmesdlae Gentlemans lunches. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 09 Dec 16 4.55pm

Originally posted by chris123

That's the Strand surely?

Simpsons on Cornhill is a delight.

It is also the dining venue for our irregular Holmesdlae Gentlemans lunches.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 09 Dec 16 4.56pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Elitist. Yeah and so what? I am not a baggy trousered ballet enthusiast. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 09 Dec 16 4.56pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Elitist.

Yeah and so what?

I am not a baggy trousered ballet enthusiast.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 09 Dec 16 4.57pm
Originally posted by tome I don't have a strong view on who has most influence within the EU, but certainly the UK can expect to have less outside it that it does now. Just curious though, if we did see a deal which was membership in all but name, is that something you'd be happy with? I can see your concerns about corruption and catering for the multinationals, I'm wondering if being run by a different elite will necessarily make any difference to that. I want us out of Europe and if that means 'hard' Brexit, so be it. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 09 Dec 16 4.57pm

Originally posted by tome

I don't have a strong view on who has most influence within the EU, but certainly the UK can expect to have less outside it that it does now.

Just curious though, if we did see a deal which was membership in all but name, is that something you'd be happy with?

I can see your concerns about corruption and catering for the multinationals, I'm wondering if being run by a different elite will necessarily make any difference to that.

I want us out of Europe and if that means 'hard' Brexit, so be it.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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chris123 hove actually 09 Dec 16 5.04pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Simpsons on Cornhill is a delight. It is also the dining venue for our irreg.ular Holmesdlae Gentlemans lunches. Yes, but it's a pub, unlike Simpsons on the Strand, which is famous for its bubble and squeak.
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hove actually 09 Dec 16 5.04pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Simpsons on Cornhill is a delight.

It is also the dining venue for our irreg.ular Holmesdlae Gentlemans lunches.

Yes, but it's a pub, unlike Simpsons on the Strand, which is famous for its bubble and squeak.

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steeleye20 Croydon 09 Dec 16 5.07pm
Originally posted by tome I don't have a strong view on who has most influence within the EU, but certainly the UK can expect to have less outside it that it does now. Just curious though, if we did see a deal which was membership in all but name, is that something you'd be happy with? I can see your concerns about corruption and catering for the multinationals, I'm wondering if being run by a different elite will necessarily make any difference to that. I think we are missing that we have the veto and I don't think France and Germany do conspire against us particularly but it is there to block if necessary. Another point is that with single market membership that does not mean that the UK has a veto or in fact any say in how it is run, Norway just pay in and thats it. I don't think being a virtual one party state is better than the EU the surveillance bill recently passed with little opposition would not get such an easy ride in the EU.
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Croydon 09 Dec 16 5.07pm

Originally posted by tome

I don't have a strong view on who has most influence within the EU, but certainly the UK can expect to have less outside it that it does now.

Just curious though, if we did see a deal which was membership in all but name, is that something you'd be happy with?

I can see your concerns about corruption and catering for the multinationals, I'm wondering if being run by a different elite will necessarily make any difference to that.

I think we are missing that we have the veto and I don't think France and Germany do conspire against us particularly but it is there to block if necessary.

Another point is that with single market membership that does not mean that the UK has a veto or in fact any say in how it is run, Norway just pay in and thats it.

I don't think being a virtual one party state is better than the EU the surveillance bill recently passed with little opposition would not get such an easy ride in the EU.

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 09 Dec 16 5.13pm
Originally posted by matt_himself I want us out of Europe and if that means 'hard' Brexit, so be it. I was more wondering whether you'd approve of a Brexit so soft it's kind of pointless (depending on your priorities). I suppose the key to a future which is more demoscratic and transparent is to avoid vested interests taking a power grab during the transition. How do you reckon we might do that? A one and a two...
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tome

Inner Tantalus Time. 09 Dec 16 5.13pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

I want us out of Europe and if that means 'hard' Brexit, so be it.

I was more wondering whether you'd approve of a Brexit so soft it's kind of pointless (depending on your priorities).

I suppose the key to a future which is more demoscratic and transparent is to avoid vested interests taking a power grab during the transition. How do you reckon we might do that?

A one and a two...

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matt_himself Matataland 09 Dec 16 5.34pm
Originally posted by chris123 Yes, but it's a pub, unlike Simpsons on the Strand, which is famous for its bubble and squeak. Sir, it is not a pub. It is a restaurant. Yes, it has a bar but Dickins ate there. As did Farage. Some of the greatest Englishmen. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 09 Dec 16 5.34pm

Originally posted by chris123

Yes, but it's a pub, unlike Simpsons on the Strand, which is famous for its bubble and squeak.

Sir, it is not a pub. It is a restaurant.

Yes, it has a bar but Dickins ate there. As did Farage. Some of the greatest Englishmen.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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chris123 hove actually 09 Dec 16 5.39pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Sir, it is not a pub. It is a restaurant. Yes, it has a bar but Dickins ate there. As did Farage. Some of the greatest Englishmen. I know it well - cheap too for the City. It's a pub that does good food and usually has a good beer selection.
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hove actually 09 Dec 16 5.39pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Sir, it is not a pub. It is a restaurant.

Yes, it has a bar but Dickins ate there. As did Farage. Some of the greatest Englishmen.

I know it well - cheap too for the City. It's a pub that does good food and usually has a good beer selection.

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matt_himself Matataland 09 Dec 16 6.06pm
Originally posted by chris123 I know it well - cheap too for the City. It's a pub that does good food and usually has a good beer selection. Sir, whilst it maybe called the Simpsons Tavern, it is not a pub. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 09 Dec 16 6.06pm

Originally posted by chris123

I know it well - cheap too for the City. It's a pub that does good food and usually has a good beer selection.

Sir, whilst it maybe called the Simpsons Tavern, it is not a pub.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 09 Dec 16 6.20pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Sir, whilst it maybe called the Simpsons Tavern, it is not a pub. It would appear that you are an "elitist" pleb, whilst chris123 is more your "common" pleb. Completely different from me, who is an "indifferent" pleb. I don't care if I get pissed in a pub or a restaurant. And am willing to eat in either. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (09 Dec 2016 6.25pm) Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Stoke sub normal 09 Dec 16 6.20pm