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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Oct 23 2.45pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'Tories delay ban on no-fault evictions again in 'grubby deal' with MPs who are landlords'.

I've been waiting for something like this.

1 in 5 tory MPs make money from residential property.

They have no shame, but the game is surely up.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Oct 23 5.21pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Renters reform bill indefinitely delayed, we will not see it before the election, by tory landlords.

A 2019 manifesto pledge.

5 million + people rent, it's hard to see why they would not choose labour.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Oct 23 9.24pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

So no protection for a landlord. Check the facts on debtors who refuse to pay, wreck the drum and cause total heartbreak with no comeback. Many of the landlords are people using the rent as an income to survive. Yes there should be a time line for good renters but how long?
If a landlord wants to sell up what would happen. These are reasonable questions that the MPs are probably asking. Many might be landlords but are also millionaires who don’t need a rental to survive.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 25 Oct 23 10.35am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Therese Coffey is now officially an embarrassment

The Conservatives will get what they deserve at the next election, sadly so will the country as a whole

Edited by HKOwen (25 Oct 2023 10.37am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 23 10.53am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So no protection for a landlord. Check the facts on debtors who refuse to pay, wreck the drum and cause total heartbreak with no comeback. Many of the landlords are people using the rent as an income to survive. Yes there should be a time line for good renters but how long?
If a landlord wants to sell up what would happen. These are reasonable questions that the MPs are probably asking. Many might be landlords but are also millionaires who don’t need a rental to survive.

I am a landlord who depends for part of my income in retirement on the rent I get.

Remember this is about “no fault” evictions. Those who don’t pay or trash your place can still be evicted and the proposed legislation includes provisions to make that easier. The problem being this necessitates court action for which there are log jams of which unscrupulous tenants are only too aware.

It’s having to use the current court system which is the problem.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 25 Oct 23 3.47pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So no protection for a landlord. Check the facts on debtors who refuse to pay, wreck the drum and cause total heartbreak with no comeback. Many of the landlords are people using the rent as an income to survive. Yes there should be a time line for good renters but how long?
If a landlord wants to sell up what would happen. These are reasonable questions that the MPs are probably asking. Many might be landlords but are also millionaires who don’t need a rental to survive.

If they're struggling to survive, they could always sell their asset that's worth a few hundred thousand pound that someone else is paying off for them.

There is not one person who 'needs' a rental income to survive.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Oct 23 4.12pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Rishi Sunak is removing the cap on bankers' bonuses which were implemented in the wake of the banking crash to prevent reckless gambles.

Now that the caps are being removed, the reckless behaviour is being encouraged, which will mean more hits to your pension funds, as well as higher costs of borrowing when the government has to bail them out again.

This is actually Truss territory, well great.

It was Sunak who helped bring down RBS leading to the crash, making himself rich at the expense of everybody else.

As he and his government are doing all the time.



 

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JRW2 Flag Dulwich 25 Oct 23 4.47pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

If they're struggling to survive, they could always sell their asset that's worth a few hundred thousand pound that someone else is paying off for them.

There is not one person who 'needs' a rental income to survive.

What do you mean? I assume that you must be talking about a landlord whose rental property is mortgaged - in which case he won't be getting those "few hundred thousand pounds" you talk about. And if he were to sell, the tenant would be the loser.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Oct 23 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

What the correct balance is between landlord and renter I wouldn't know. I'll say that property rights are very important....while also recognising that wealthy people shouldn't be able to abuse the housing stock situation on a frigging crowded island.

I think that's my main annoyance with the whole situation....the housing stock.

It's been over a generation's worth of politicians not doing their job.

They have increased the population massively (which I obviously disagree with) but if you were going to do that the infrastructure needed to keep pace. This was not done and the media did not hold any of them to sufficient account.

Just as when your standard of living goes down when your wage rises fall below inflation the chances of the next generation to own their own home goes down when population number outmatches housing growth.

I'll stop now because I just get angry the more I think about it.....Sold the young people down the tube for their own selfishness in just about every metric you can think of.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Oct 2023 4.54pm)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Oct 23 4.55pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Tories delay ban on no-fault evictions again in 'grubby deal' with MPs who are landlords'.

I've been waiting for something like this.

1 in 5 tory MPs make money from residential property.

They have no shame, but the game is surely up.

Most of Labour's front bench, and presumably more if anyone looks into it, own their massive council house. No dodgy dealing there Messrs Abbott and Corbyn. For two off the top of my head. Funny how the press doesn't care.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 25 Oct 23 5.03pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

What do you mean? I assume that you must be talking about a landlord whose rental property is mortgaged - in which case he won't be getting those "few hundred thousand pounds" you talk about. And if he were to sell, the tenant would be the loser.

Whatever the LTV %, it doesn't change the value of the asset, which is the 'few hundred thousand pounds' I talked about.

I've never understood the argument that if landlords sell up, it's bad for tenants - the house doesn't just disappear; it's either sold to another landlord and can still be rented, or it's sold to an owner-occupier.

If another landlords sell, prices come down, and more tenants can stop paying someone else's mortgage and start paying their own.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 25 Oct 23 5.03pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Most of Labour's front bench, and presumably more if anyone looks into it, own their massive council house. No dodgy dealing there Messrs Abbott and Corbyn. For two off the top of my head. Funny how the press doesn't care.

Yeah, the press have famously never cared about Jeremy Corbyn.

 

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