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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 11.42pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Clearly the people that run the bank have opinions and objectives. You might be surprised to learn that the bank, without the people that run it, is incapable of having opinions and objectives - unless you are including AI.

As individuals, of course they do. Some may be admirers of Farage.

Those though all need to be left at home when tasked with determining how to achieve the objectives of the bank. Objectives that will be defined by the Board and implemented by senior management.

It’s no different to a Palace player who supports Brighton and has done all his life. He is a professional and cannot allow personal feelings to cloud his mind when doing his job.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 31 Jul 23 11.57pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As individuals, of course they do. Some may be admirers of Farage.

Those though all need to be left at home when tasked with determining how to achieve the objectives of the bank. Objectives that will be defined by the Board and implemented by senior management.

It’s no different to a Palace player who supports Brighton and has done all his life. He is a professional and cannot allow personal feelings to cloud his mind when doing his job.

I’ve sat on many a Risk Committee in a number of banks and you are wrong.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Aug 23 12.51am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Wasn’t he an actual Army Medic during WW1..?

Indeed

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Aug 23 12.54am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I’ve sat on many a Risk Committee in a number of banks and you are wrong.

How very dare you.

You are correct, I have had my share of RC's as well and the process is not based on whims.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 01 Aug 23 6.53am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As individuals, of course they do. Some may be admirers of Farage.

Those though all need to be left at home when tasked with determining how to achieve the objectives of the bank. Objectives that will be defined by the Board and implemented by senior management.

It’s no different to a Palace player who supports Brighton and has done all his life. He is a professional and cannot allow personal feelings to cloud his mind when doing his job.

It is unsubstantiated spin to suggest that Coutts board members are admirers of Farage.

The objectives of Coutts bank is stated in their mission statement and can be summarised as helping to make rich so-and-sos richer:

"Exceptional service tailored to each client’s needs sits at the very heart of Coutts. The private bank adopts a personal and innovative approach to helping those with wealth to save, borrow and invest their money for themselves, their families and their future. Its people strive to provide the ‘human touch’ every step of the way, supported by technology that makes it easier for clients to manage their ever-changing needs.
Having helped affluent people for over three centuries, Coutts understands what it means to be wealthy – the opportunities it brings and the challenges it creates. Its experts are therefore ideally positioned to become trusted partners to their clients, helping them make the most of their money today and for years to come.
From day-to-day banking to bespoke borrowing, from philanthropy to the family business, Coutts helps its clients thrive. It’s a firm believer in sustainability, and keeps its clients informed on how it’s doing right by both people and planet.
The bank also opens doors to many unique opportunities for its clients, through its strong network of influential people, powerful insight into today’s hot topics and carefully curated events.
Eligibility criteria, fees and charges apply.”

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Aug 23 7.31am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As individuals, of course they do. Some may be admirers of Farage.

Those though all need to be left at home when tasked with determining how to achieve the objectives of the bank. Objectives that will be defined by the Board and implemented by senior management.

It’s no different to a Palace player who supports Brighton and has done all his life. He is a professional and cannot allow personal feelings to cloud his mind when doing his job.

As previously posted he appears to have more admirers than detractors.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 23 8.14am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle


WE - if, for example, South West Water took a “business decision” to close your account and not supply you with any water would that be acceptable to you?

Water companies are public utilities and required by law to maintain service. Banks are not.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 23 8.23am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

What a hypocrite Wisbelch is. Supports Coutts in closing bank accounts because of political/social views, yet did not support Ashers when they closed down an order because of political/social views.

Are you still banging on about that?

I have already, very patiently, explained the difference between a business which openly discriminates because of the personal views of their owners and one which takes decisions on threats of perceived reputational damage.

If the Asher’s core customer base was evangelical Christians opposed to gay marriage then refusing an order which promoted it could be defended on the basis it could damage their reputation. Refusing one because of personal objections is discriminatory.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Aug 23 8.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Water companies are public utilities and required by law to maintain service. Banks are not.

Banks just do what they like and when they go bust expect the taaxpayer to shut up and bail them out.

So yeah I do think they have a public responsibility otherwise next time they get into trouble we should let them sink just like the cornershop.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you still banging on about that?

I have already, very patiently, explained the difference between a business which openly discriminates because of the personal views of their owners and one which takes decisions on threats of perceived reputational damage.

If the Asher’s core customer base was evangelical Christians opposed to gay marriage then refusing an order which promoted it could be defended on the basis it could damage their reputation. Refusing one because of personal objections is discriminatory.

Certainly Ashers could think that their reputation would be damaged by promoting homosexual marriage that was not even a legally recognised charade at the time.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 23 8.28am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Don't be ridiculous man. Your pedantry won't save you on this one.

Where should this protection of reputation end?

Doctors, dentists, supermarkets, insurance, car dealers?

You know full well that this kind of behaviour runs counter to everything that our culture believes in. It is a cancer infecting our society.

But then you promote the replacement of our culture, so why should we be surprised by your attitude? That is a rhetorical question.

That’s for the bank to assess. It’s their business. Not yours or mine. I don’t think it’s likely that your examples will be regarded as threats, but it’s not up to me.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 23 8.31am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Certainly Ashers could think that their reputation would be damaged by promoting homosexual marriage that was not even a legally recognised charade at the time.

They could, but they didn’t make that case. They made it only on their personal beliefs. That’s discrimination.

 


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