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eaglesdare 28 Mar 23 2.31pm | |
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"Safe and effective"
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Mar 23 7.34pm | |
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‘In the first 3 months’ I reckon a majority of vaccinations could make you vulnerable within this period. The flu jab can give you bad, life affecting flu in an exceptionally small amount of cases. Bottom line, survive 3 months and are the benefits of the vaccine better. Chance against chance really!
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Stirlingsays 29 Mar 23 12.31am | |
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Without even talking about how safe anything is, how proportionate and accurate predictions and assurances were. The mandating, the sackings and arrests. The whole coronavirus and vaccine period has to be the biggest red pill moment for people since 2016. When I say 'red pill', I don't necessarily mean right wing but becoming aware of just how far their governing systems are prepared to go to control their behaviour.....nudge them so to speak. When scared, people always choose the perception of safety over liberty....the majority also never seem to be aware that this very human trait is being taken advantage of....probably because the system has put the sh1ts up them....which was their intent. People will often say that they know that the government and media lie or in this case perhaps significantly embellish, but in the final analysis a large majority of people end up just believing it anyway.....stick someone on the TV and it's see monkey do. Oh for a world without narcissistic control freaks who will present the facts as best they know them and allow adults to make their own minds up without compulsions. You know, that supposedly free society we were meant to live in.
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Stirlingsays 29 Mar 23 2.07am | |
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footythoughts Beckenham 29 Mar 23 8.35am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
‘In the first 3 months’ I reckon a majority of vaccinations could make you vulnerable within this period. The flu jab can give you bad, life affecting flu in an exceptionally small amount of cases. Bottom line, survive 3 months and are the benefits of the vaccine better. Chance against chance really! Logically the vaccine clearly helped massively in giving people an immune boost. If you gave any vaccine, medication or treatment to billions of people there would be horror stories in there somewhere. I get younger people or non vulnerable people opting out at this stage, but initially it made plenty of sense to have it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Mar 23 6.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
[Tweet Link] As always know the source:- Josh Yoder, president of U.S. Freedom Flyers, a group against vaccine mandates.
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Teddy Eagle 29 Mar 23 6.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As always know the source:- Josh Yoder, president of U.S. Freedom Flyers, a group against vaccine mandates. So is the letter a fake? If not why does the source matter?
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 29 Mar 23 6.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
[Tweet Link] I'm never a massive fan of link posting, but can someone please explain what exactly is being inferred by this letter? Because to me it reads as 'Pilot with multiple medical vulnerabilities including myocarditis is susceptible to vaccines (plural)'. Is the point being made that despite his declared vulnerability to vaccines he's being forced to have one? Would be surprising, and probably legally questionable.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Mar 23 6.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Without even talking about how safe anything is, how proportionate and accurate predictions and assurances were. The mandating, the sackings and arrests. The whole coronavirus and vaccine period has to be the biggest red pill moment for people since 2016. When I say 'red pill', I don't necessarily mean right wing but becoming aware of just how far their governing systems are prepared to go to control their behaviour.....nudge them so to speak. When scared, people always choose the perception of safety over liberty....the majority also never seem to be aware that this very human trait is being taken advantage of....probably because the system has put the sh1ts up them....which was their intent. People will often say that they know that the government and media lie or in this case perhaps significantly embellish, but in the final analysis a large majority of people end up just believing it anyway.....stick someone on the TV and it's see monkey do. Oh for a world without narcissistic control freaks who will present the facts as best they know them and allow adults to make their own minds up without compulsions. You know, that supposedly free society we were meant to live in.
Who declared this? No society is truly "free". As soon as a society exists it requires its members to give up some personal choices in the common interests of the others. Only anarchists believe in a society that's completely free. Societies need organisation. Organisation needs laws. Laws needs to be made and administered. Administration needs management. Management needs to be selected, or imposed. Fortunately in a democracy we do the selecting. That some disagree with the way the management is performed is inevitable. Fortunately in a democracy that doesn't matter too much.
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georgenorman 29 Mar 23 7.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who declared this? No society is truly "free". As soon as a society exists it requires its members to give up some personal choices in the common interests of the others. Only anarchists believe in a society that's completely free. Societies need organisation. Organisation needs laws. Laws needs to be made and administered. Administration needs management. Management needs to be selected, or imposed. Fortunately in a democracy we do the selecting. That some disagree with the way the management is performed is inevitable. Fortunately in a democracy that doesn't matter too much. Shouldn't your idea of freedom be on the thread currently discussing Fascism?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Mar 23 8.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So is the letter a fake? If not why does the source matter? I have no more idea than you, but for the sake of argument let's assume it's genuine. Does the source matter? Yes, it does because it questions the motivations behind why it was posted. Just as the motivations of it being posted here are questionable. I would bet loads of similar letters exist. The guy has a medical history the source of which is unknown, so the US Department covers itself with a requirement not to fly if any adverse symptoms occur. Possibly doesn't mean likely. Many extremely unlikely things are possible. It is much more likely that myocarditis results from a virus infection than a vaccine against it, So why draw attention to it? Unless you have a prejudice looking for a home.
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Teddy Eagle 29 Mar 23 8.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no more idea than you, but for the sake of argument let's assume it's genuine. Does the source matter? Yes, it does because it questions the motivations behind why it was posted. Just as the motivations of it being posted here are questionable. I would bet loads of similar letters exist. The guy has a medical history the source of which is unknown, so the US Department covers itself with a requirement not to fly if any adverse symptoms occur. Possibly doesn't mean likely. Many extremely unlikely things are possible. It is much more likely that myocarditis results from a virus infection than a vaccine against it, So why draw attention to it? Unless you have a prejudice looking for a home. Claiming the source is the all-important factor makes it too easy to ignore inconvenient truths. As does dismissing facts until they're reported by the BBC.
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