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jeeagles 08 Dec 20 10.01pm | |
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I really like the sign up at The Den tonight. They should put up more like it. Attachment: Screenshot_20201208-215905_Chrome.jpg (412.20Kb)
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Dec 20 10.05pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I really like the sign up at The Den tonight. They should put up more like it. I don’t quite get why they’ve put inequality with the in crossed out, barely, must be missing a trick.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Dec 20 10.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
At least you’ve reversed from me wanting to ruin a protest. Jesus, what a stupid thing to say anyway. Did you see the poll? You can be sure as time goes on that more people would prefer the knee to go. Your Marcus Rashford attempt is a bad one seeing as he took cabinet ministers on directly with a clear issue that had a clear solution. (I think the error was expecting a tory government to promise to continue it over Easter 6 months ahead, but that’s another debate). The knee has lost its effect and is becoming more divisive. Black power salutes with it didn’t help its cause either. I’m genuinely hopeful that 2 teams locked in arms might be more effective than players with a 10m radius space around them getting on one knee for a few seconds and maybe a more controversial fist in the air. It’s the sort of thing that happens at schoolboy football but gets lost in teenage years. Somehow competitiveness means respect has to go out of the window, especially at professional level. That doesn’t have to be a given, but try telling that to some foreign international teams. Try Argentinia to begin with. As I have already said on several occasions believing that this gesture has run its course and should be retired is a perfectly valid and respectable opinion. That though is NOT what the debate is about is it? It's about the suggestion that the players are somehow supporting a political organisation when they are not. They are showing solidarity with those among us, and themselves, who have suffered discrimination. Getting booed by the mindless is just disrespectful and I can understand why they are angry.
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jeeagles 08 Dec 20 10.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I don’t quite get why they’ve put inequality with the in crossed out, barely, must be missing a trick. Yes.
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Stirlingsays 08 Dec 20 10.12pm | |
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Football is over represented by the very group they claim suffers 'inequality'.....where in the law is this inequality? The very group they claim inequality for is funded to the tune of millions by corporations and gets continual support by every organisation .....continually telling us how terrible their life is. I had feck all help growing up. The whole thing is nuts. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Dec 2020 10.12pm)
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Teddy Eagle 08 Dec 20 10.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Yes he did. He started the protests. Unconnected with coaching He must be older than he looks if he’s been doing it for 60 years, an article about the University of South Carolina Gamecocks. The Gamecocks held a Varsity-Alumni game, and during halftime, one of the Alumni players, Albert "King" Dixon Jr., paid tribute to Rex Enright, a longtime coach and athletic director who had died the month before. With two minutes left before they had to go back out on the field, the Little King stood up and said: "Some of us talked about this before the game. We all played for him. We all loved him. Now he's gone. So let's all take a knee for a moment of silence for our Rex Enright."
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Mapletree Croydon 08 Dec 20 10.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
My anti BLM friends must forgive me but I find that quite funny. That would be stereotyping. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Dec 2020 9.34pm) For the avoidance of doubt my original post has been doctored. Although almost every Millwall fan I have met was an mbicile Edited by Mapletree (08 Dec 2020 10.15pm)
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Dec 20 10.16pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Yes. Not much help really
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Dec 20 10.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It happened at West Ham as well. The tv sound was muted. It also happened at Colchester, Brentford and Reading. It’s proven to be divisive. Exactly who is being divided? The decent and respectable from the barbaric and thoughtless? If exposing the fact that these attitudes still exist helps to bring shame on their heads it seems a sensible thing to do. But of course, that's wrong, isn't it. They are exposing the connection to a Marxist group in the USA. Silly me.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Dec 20 10.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
You can tell you haven't been on there. The BBS actually has some decent discussions on the matter, the majority actually. It does however have on there a quite obvious contingent of extreme left posters, and I mean the extreme, to the point I would question whether they are fans at all or not just hijackers. As previously mentioned, this does not exclude people openly identifying as 'Antifa'. As for BLM, there are also some posters who have posted long narratives quite pathetically trying to justify the BLM 'manifesto' let alone disassociate it with the kneeling. Your posts do baffle me sometimes to the point I become very suspicious and tend not to reply but thought I would give you some insight on this one. There can some hurtful comments from both sides on here (boohoo) but in comparison it does actually make me grateful that a platform exists where we can have sometimes heated discussion without some nutcase posting things like this when someone (an OP) merely poses the question of whether people would boo or not without any indication of their position: "I would boo you, you f**king Aids toilet c**t" There are people here who think that people on the political centre-ground are extreme left-wingers.
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jeeagles 08 Dec 20 10.25pm | |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
QPR players celebrating their goal by taking a knee in front of the Millwall fans? Inject it. It's a great response. I like the way Millwall fans expressed their objections to symbolim thats intrinsically linked with a group that rioted at the hight of the pandemic and graffittied the cenotaph. I also like the way Casim-Richards objected to them. I think Millwall's approach to come up with a equality statement everyone can get behind is far better than imposing a controversial cause on people. The celebration is more than likely to be antagonistic but will be supported in the Guardian as "brave" tomorrow. The most annoying thing about this whole situation is the press constantly presenting contrived arguments and lazily condemning people as good or bad like a Disney move. All aimed at being decisive to make money (or just to divide us in the case of Russia Today).
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Dec 20 10.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are people here who think that people on the political centre-ground are extreme left-wingers. I’ve never seen any of that.
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