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Mapletree Croydon 06 Oct 17 2.38pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The majority of people in England will have four English born grandparents and eight English born great-grandparents - I do and so does my wife. Edited by hedgehog50 (06 Oct 2017 2.23pm) Source? I think this unlikely given the levels of immigration from Ireland and before/during both World Wars not to mention all the subsequent immigration.
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Mapletree Croydon 06 Oct 17 2.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is an interesting discussion if kept civil. I would look to America to see how multi culture works long term. Thee is still a lot of segregation and antagonism. The process of immigration is continuous so you never reach a point where everyone is second generation or greater. In terms of the economy and growth of a nation there are probably some advantages but America has plenty of room for growth, unlike Britain.It does not necessarily mean better quality of life for all. The wealthy probably get wealthier and the increased population alone brings big presures on a society with finite resources. As a tiny island, we will feel that quicker than most. I wouldn't, they are way behind the UK
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Mapletree Croydon 06 Oct 17 2.43pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I think the constant use of the word 'communities' sums things up - what it really means is groups of people of similar race, religion and culture concentrating themselves together in given areas with little attempt to integrate (whatever that means). But apparently 'communities' are a cause for 'celebration'. No significant race riots lately (be patient) but plenty of terrorism emerging from the 'communities'. I consider New Addington to be a community. What is interesting is how its make-up keeps changing. Recently went through an African bulge, now Polish. They all seem to rub along quite well and definitely have a sense of community. Croydon seems to me to be a good example that we don't have to build communities on ethnic grounds but I do think shared schooling is absolutely crucial to break down the barriers. That is why I have concerns over recent policies towards single-religion schools.
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Kermit8 Hevon 06 Oct 17 2.44pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
And the Jewish people as well Kermit,I agree with your post,,but maybe the nastier side of your mates should remember that. I don't have any warped far-right or warped far-left mates.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 06 Oct 17 2.57pm | |
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Im looking forward to the next con party conference, can anyone just walk in from the street anyone know? No security at all? Do they sell coke and popcorn?
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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Oct 17 3.00pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
At what point did this woman have mud slung at her? I have no distrust of any other community. Your view of the world is warped, just like hers. Jeez, it is her doing the mud-sling in this instance! You keep your rose-tinted specs on now. Do you think the view of the world of the guy in the attached link is warped? Edited by hedgehog50 (06 Oct 2017 3.24pm)
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Oct 17 3.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I consider New Addington to be a community. What is interesting is how its make-up keeps changing. Recently went through an African bulge, now Polish. They all seem to rub along quite well and definitely have a sense of community. Croydon seems to me to be a good example that we don't have to build communities on ethnic grounds but I do think shared schooling is absolutely crucial to break down the barriers. That is why I have concerns over recent policies towards single-religion schools. Yes, lets 'celebrate' New Addington.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Oct 17 3.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Source? I think this unlikely given the levels of immigration from Ireland and before/during both World Wars not to mention all the subsequent immigration. What's your source for your view? The majority of people old enough to be grandparents and great-grandparents in England would have been born in England. Do some family history research, look at old census returns, foreign birthplaces in the records are scarce.
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Oct 17 3.28pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
See below. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (06 Oct 2017 3.42pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Oct 17 3.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And there lies one of the problems in 'modern' society. People are offended by the reasonable but tolerate the absurd.
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DanH SW2 06 Oct 17 3.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And there lies on f the problems in 'modern' society. People are offended by the reasonable but tolerate the absurd. Is there where the f from Theresa's backdrop finally landed?
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Oct 17 3.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I wouldn't, they are way behind the UK America is essentially made up of immigrants and yet it is interesting that most Americans that are of English decent call themselves Americans whereas there is a desire by other nationalities to retain national/cultural identity. The Irish, the Jews or the Italians for example. It is perhaps a symptom of religion or being a minority but it does imply problems with how minorities behave.
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