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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 10.52am | |
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Very intelligent response. Well done. I thought so too. Thank You.
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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Apr 13 10.54am | |
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People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out. On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society.
Just read this and thought it fairly well balanced. Agree - it is This just about sums up where Britain was when she came to power thouugh - what a sad idictment from Callahgan Over the course of the 1970s, two Prime Ministers, Edward Heath and James Callaghan, had been broken by the trade unions, while a third, Harold Wilson, descended into paranoia. Foreign papers talked of Britain as the Sick Man of Europe. Callaghan himself told his Labour colleagues: "If I were a young man, I would emigrate."
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Moose In the sewer pipe... 10 Apr 13 10.55am | |
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Very intelligent response. Well done. I thought so too. Thank You.
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nickyf 10 Apr 13 10.55am | |
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my gran always regreted not buying her council house in the 80s as she was terrified of debt,
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 10.57am | |
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Can anyone explain why borrowing went up under Thatch despite the billions raked in from North Sea oil and the cash from selling off national assets?
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codeg73 Purley 10 Apr 13 11.02am | |
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Hopefully her legacy will die with her. We are still suffering from her menage a trois with Reagan and neo liberalism.
See that nasty unemployable anti-social chav drinking too many alcopops and holding a nasty pitbull? It didn't exist in early 1979. But, by early 1989 the first crop were about to be released onto society. And her three boyfriends aren't much better.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 10 Apr 13 11.03am | |
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She sold off our industry and spunked the money.
Yes she privatised British Gas etc but that's hardly selling off our industry. British Steel was shagged with Labour only keeping Steel works open for political reasons. You make me laugh, you moan about people believing the media but all you post is soundbites
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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 11.05am | |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 10 Apr 2013 10.46am
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 10 Apr 2013 10.39am
People on here criticise Cameron when he blames the last Labour government for the s*** storm we are in as they claim he has had plenty of time (less than three years) to sort it all out. On the other hand, 23 years after Maggie left office it is still acceptable to blame her for all the ills of our society.
Just read this and thought it fairly well balanced.
Looking back to 1979 it wasn't the ideology of Thatcher that we needed but her strength and ability to get a job done. She was far too right wing and too intransigent to understand and try to look after the country as a whole and to let vast swathes rot after taking away their work and the knock on effects of that was plainly unjust. Those workers had families. And those communities had small businesses dependent on those workers being able to access them financially. It is almost forgivable when understanding the manufacturing business complexities at the time but dig a little more towards those who were already doing alright Jack - and the extra wealth they were accumulating on the back of her policy of low tax and high unemployment - whilst many millions were living on a meagre few pounds a day after being forced onto the dole, then resentment is surely understandable. And I'm not talking about the man in the street who did ok. I mean the upper middle and upper already monied classes who suddenly found someone planting even more sackfuls of cash in their already overflowing coffers. How she slept those 4 hours at night I'll never know. We needed someone a bit like Thatcher. But not actually her.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Apr 13 11.14am | |
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Les vues de la marque de M. Russell Brand dans le Guardian d'aujourd'hui valent lu : Edited by Pinky (10 Apr 2013 8.51am)
"Is that what made her so formidable, her ability to ignore the suffering of others? Given the nature of her legacy "survival of the fittest" – a phrase that Darwin himself only used twice in On the Origin of Species, compared to hundreds of references to altruism, love and cooperation, it isn't surprising that there are parties tonight in Liverpool, Glasgow and Brixton – from where are they to have learned compassion and forgiveness?" Interesting that Russell B refers to Darwinism, as her philosophy can be traced back (remember Victorian Values?) to Herbert Spencer and other Social Darwinists who tried to hijack Darwin's genius for their own selfish political ends. Darwin was dismissive of their ham-fisted attempts to use his work to justify everything from Napoleon Bonaparte to the rogue shopkeeper with his thumb on the scales.
Social Darwinism is psuedo-scientific claptrap, its a terms devoid of real meaning. Society is not subject to patterns even similar to evolutionary development. It also has a very sticky history with the right, and the rightous, as it was used to 'justify' racial laws, patriarcialism, eugenics, class determinism etc. Its used by people who a) don't understand evolutionary theory b) don't understand social theory c) Never even thought about Foulcolt and social constructionism.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Apr 13 11.17am | |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 10 Apr 2013 11.03am
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She sold off our industry and spunked the money.
Yes she privatised British Gas etc but that's hardly selling off our industry. British Steel was shagged with Labour only keeping Steel works open for political reasons. You make me laugh, you moan about people believing the media but all you post is soundbites
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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 11.21am | |
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Hopefully her legacy will die with her. We are still suffering from her menage a trois with Reagan and neo liberalism.
See that nasty unemployable anti-social chav drinking too many alcopops and holding a nasty pitbull? It didn't exist in early 1979. But, by early 1989 the first crop were about to be released onto society. And her three boyfriends aren't much better.
Relying on Wikipedia isn't always the best avenue to go down when debating a point.
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Bin Liner London , Southfields 10 Apr 13 11.35am | |
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Quote nickgusset at 08 Apr 2013 5.04pm
Hopefully her legacy will die with her. We are still suffering from her menage a trois with Reagan and neo liberalism.
See that nasty unemployable anti-social chav drinking too many alcopops and holding a nasty pitbull? It didn't exist in early 1979. But, by early 1989 the first crop were about to be released onto society. And her three boyfriends aren't much better.
Edited by Bin Liner (10 Apr 2013 11.36am)
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