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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 07 Dec 16 7.34pm |
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2nd vote due in a few minutes. All about to fall for her trap. She reveals the outline of negotiations and objecting MPs Nick Clegg and co cannot prevent triggering of Article 50 in March. She's good.
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| matt_himself Matataland 07 Dec 16 7.36pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Voting: In 3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too. That's enough to sway me. It's happened, Michael, we're leaving the EU. Deal with it.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Dec 16 7.52pm |
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The Government won the vote by a 372 majority after 448 voted for and 75 against. Onwards and upwards so they say!
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Dec 16 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
The Government won the vote by a 372 majority after 448 voted for and 75 against. Onwards and upwards so they say! Nope. Not having it. I wanna referendum! Bwahahaha....
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 Hrolf The Ganger 07 Dec 16 9.11pm |
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Originally posted by tome
You don't think that believing that leaving will bugger up the economy, reduce environmental protection, isolate the UK geopolitically, while costing the country a fortune is a reasonable reason to seek scrutiny and check whether Brexit makes sense? No
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tome  Inner Tantalus Time. 07 Dec 16 9.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No Why is that an unreasonable position?
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Dec 16 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by tome
I reckon that political parties shouldn't be class or identity based. Much better for parties to advocate policies based on best evidence rather than just marketing, no? They were. Now they're not. Things seem to have moved on.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Dec 16 10.04pm |
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Originally posted by tome
Why is that an unreasonable position? It is a question of priorities.
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| tome Inner Tantalus Time. 07 Dec 16 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
They were. Now they're not. Things seem to have moved on. Well, I reckon it wasn't often very evidence based against a clear vision of how thigns could be. But things have certainly taken a further turn away from that lately. What do you propose to do about it?
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| tome Inner Tantalus Time. 07 Dec 16 10.15pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It is a question of priorities. What do you mean? I think it's a bit of a slander to suggest that the ONLY possible motive for wanting a vote, wanting scrutiny, or even wanting a referendum/election on terms is political skullduggery. You don't seem to allow for people to regard the future as brighter in the EU. Surely the number one priority is creating the conditions for the UK to be in the best position it can?
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Dec 16 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by tome
Well, I reckon it wasn't often very evidence based against a clear vision of how thigns could be. But things have certainly taken a further turn away from that lately. What do you propose to do about it? Me personally? Not much I can do on my own. I have an inbuilt mistrust of any politician of any hue. Voting only encourages them. A plague on all their houses.
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| tome Inner Tantalus Time. 07 Dec 16 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Me personally? Not much I can do on my own. I have an inbuilt mistrust of any politician of any hue. Voting only encourages them. A plague on all their houses. Yeah, I'm fairly cynical myself. But if we do nothing, then the chances that things change is zero. If we do something increases a fraction. Individually we can't do much, but maybe collectively we can. But then, isn't thatjust forming another political party? But what's the alternative?
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