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HKOwen Hong Kong 08 Sep 23 11.06pm
Originally posted by The groover Some Greece did it twice. They inflated their GDP to get in and admitted it and were forgiven. Then they did it again to get a loan. Admitted it again and asked for another loan which when given to them they spent on lowering their pension age!!!!! The EU is a juggarnaught heading towards a cliff edge. In fighting and discourse is the buzz word. The Greeks in Athens just take the p!ss out of the EU for fun, they can't believe their luck. Further afield in rural Greece and on the islands such as Crete they generally despise the lazy urbanites who lounge around as others work hard to survive. Many in Athens I met had two or three govt jobs concurrently, hardly attended any of them and had multiple pension benefits Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 08 Sep 23 11.06pm

Originally posted by The groover

Some Greece did it twice. They inflated their GDP to get in and admitted it and were forgiven. Then they did it again to get a loan. Admitted it again and asked for another loan which when given to them they spent on lowering their pension age!!!!!

The EU is a juggarnaught heading towards a cliff edge.

In fighting and discourse is the buzz word.

The Greeks in Athens just take the p!ss out of the EU for fun, they can't believe their luck. Further afield in rural Greece and on the islands such as Crete they generally despise the lazy urbanites who lounge around as others work hard to survive.

Many in Athens I met had two or three govt jobs concurrently, hardly attended any of them and had multiple pension benefits

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays 09 Sep 23 12.12pm
Glitch. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Sep 2023 12.15pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

09 Sep 23 12.12pm

Glitch.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Sep 2023 12.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 09 Sep 23 12.14pm
[Tweet Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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09 Sep 23 12.14pm

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 13 Sep 23 4.23am
Buy into the establishment and they will buy into you....yeah right. 'We need to see pain in the economy' says the billionaire who can afford a lavish lifestyle no matter how much it costs. [Tweet Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2023 4.25am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Sep 23 4.23am

Buy into the establishment and they will buy into you....yeah right.

'We need to see pain in the economy' says the billionaire who can afford a lavish lifestyle no matter how much it costs.

[Tweet Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2023 4.25am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 13 Sep 23 8.15am
Originally posted by HKOwen The Greeks in Athens just take the p!ss out of the EU for fun, they can't believe their luck. Further afield in rural Greece and on the islands such as Crete they generally despise the lazy urbanites who lounge around as others work hard to survive. Many in Athens I met had two or three govt jobs concurrently, hardly attended any of them and had multiple pension benefits Can hairdressers still retire at 50 on a state pension because it's a hazardous job? Many Greeks complain about tax evasion by the rich (true) their ire would be more understandable if they weren't also gaming the system themselves. Tax evasion is a Greek right but hey it's always the other guy. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 13 Sep 23 8.15am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Many in Athens I met had two or three govt jobs concurrently, hardly attended any of them and had multiple pension benefits

Can hairdressers still retire at 50 on a state pension because it's a hazardous job?

Many Greeks complain about tax evasion by the rich (true) their ire would be more understandable if they weren't also gaming the system themselves.

Tax evasion is a Greek right but hey it's always the other guy.

One more point

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Matov 13 Sep 23 9.22am
Firstly, apologies. I KNOW I am a boring f***er about my 'Tories deliberately looking to lose the next election and lose it BIG' narrative but this surely has to be proof that I am right? [Link] In a year before a general election? Literally, looking to stiff the one group of voters who might still turn out and vote for them? I think there are good arguments to be made around pension reform. But in terms of politicking, the Tories are insane to bring this up now. They really, really, really want to lose to Labour. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

13 Sep 23 9.22am

Firstly, apologies. I KNOW I am a boring f***er about my 'Tories deliberately looking to lose the next election and lose it BIG' narrative but this surely has to be proof that I am right?

[Link]

In a year before a general election? Literally, looking to stiff the one group of voters who might still turn out and vote for them?

I think there are good arguments to be made around pension reform. But in terms of politicking, the Tories are insane to bring this up now.

They really, really, really want to lose to Labour.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Stirlingsays 15 Sep 23 1.57am
Labour are liars and are going to be the disaster everyone expects of them. The Tories though have been nothing short of a nightmare. £1 billion per month overseas aid...along with this 1.6 billion for India from their well travelled son. £5 billion for Ukraine £100 billion HSR2 £350 million to France to stop immigrants...or more likely pay for their security staff bar bill p1ss ups. £millions to support immigrants when they get here Billions on lockdowns Bloated civil service Index linked pensions Highest tax take since the war Net zero Vote for the Tories and you're being fecked. Vote for Labour and you're being fecked. They won't even call you a cab home. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

15 Sep 23 1.57am

Labour are liars and are going to be the disaster everyone expects of them.

The Tories though have been nothing short of a nightmare.

£1 billion per month overseas aid...along with this 1.6 billion for India from their well travelled son.
£5 billion for Ukraine
£100 billion HSR2
£350 million to France to stop immigrants...or more likely pay for their security staff bar bill p1ss ups.
£millions to support immigrants when they get here
Billions on lockdowns
Bloated civil service
Index linked pensions
Highest tax take since the war
Net zero

Vote for the Tories and you're being fecked.
Vote for Labour and you're being fecked.

They won't even call you a cab home.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 Sep 23 5.01am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Labour are liars and are going to be the disaster everyone expects of them. The Tories though have been nothing short of a nightmare. £1 billion per month overseas aid...along with this 1.6 billion for India from their well travelled son. £5 billion for Ukraine £100 billion HSR2 £350 million to France to stop immigrants...or more likely pay for their security staff bar bill p1ss ups. £millions to support immigrants when they get here Billions on lockdowns Bloated civil service Index linked pensions Highest tax take since the war Net zero Vote for the Tories and you're being fecked. Vote for Labour and you're being fecked. They won't even call you a cab home. Because your home has been taken from you by the banks ? Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Sep 2023 5.01am) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Labour are liars and are going to be the disaster everyone expects of them.

The Tories though have been nothing short of a nightmare.

Vote for the Tories and you're being fecked.
Vote for Labour and you're being fecked.

They won't even call you a cab home.

Because your home has been taken from you by the banks ?

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Sep 2023 5.01am)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Sep 23 7.46am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Labour are liars and are going to be the disaster everyone expects of them. The Tories though have been nothing short of a nightmare. £1 billion per month overseas aid...along with this 1.6 billion for India from their well travelled son. £5 billion for Ukraine £100 billion HSR2 £350 million to France to stop immigrants...or more likely pay for their security staff bar bill p1ss ups. £millions to support immigrants when they get here Billions on lockdowns Bloated civil service Index linked pensions Highest tax take since the war Net zero Vote for the Tories and you're being fecked. Vote for Labour and you're being fecked. They won't even call you a cab home. Honestly why are you complaining, it's not like it's your money being wasted One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 15 Sep 23 7.46am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Labour are liars and are going to be the disaster everyone expects of them.

The Tories though have been nothing short of a nightmare.

Vote for the Tories and you're being fecked.
Vote for Labour and you're being fecked.

They won't even call you a cab home.

Honestly why are you complaining, it's not like it's your money being wasted

One more point

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Sep 23 10.32am
I was looking at John Smith demolishing John Major's tory government on youtube in 1993 today looks like a carbon copy with crumbling schools infrastructure scandals etc. 'Grand National that doesn't start and hotels that fall into the sea'. (Actually mild stuff compared to the present situation). The government are stoney faced quiet they know that their time is up, but it's going to drag on 3 more years. Starmer is not such a great orator but he doesn't really have to be, Sunak is a liability his only ability getting in and out of helicopters, endless PR. So 'inaction man' could stick and of course he is an unelected PM not even by tory MPs. The tory dream of a tax-cutting turn-around, but its a situation they created and will only harm the voters whose support they need. They can't borrow their way out post Truss or get enough investment to produce growth particularly as we no longer have single market access to the EU, there will be some but its more losers than winners. Really HS2 is emblematic of the tories total incompetence.
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steeleye20

Croydon 15 Sep 23 10.32am

I was looking at John Smith demolishing John Major's tory government on youtube in 1993 today looks like a carbon copy with crumbling schools infrastructure scandals etc.

'Grand National that doesn't start and hotels that fall into the sea'. (Actually mild stuff compared to the present situation).

The government are stoney faced quiet they know that their time is up, but it's going to drag on 3 more years.

Starmer is not such a great orator but he doesn't really have to be, Sunak is a liability his only ability getting in and out of helicopters, endless PR.

So 'inaction man' could stick and of course he is an unelected PM not even by tory MPs.

The tory dream of a tax-cutting turn-around, but its a situation they created and will only harm the voters whose support they need.

They can't borrow their way out post Truss or get enough investment to produce growth particularly as we no longer have single market access to the EU, there will be some but its more losers than winners.

Really HS2 is emblematic of the tories total incompetence.

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Sep 23 10.42am
Originally posted by steeleye20 I was looking at John Smith demolishing John Major's tory government on youtube in 1993 today looks like a carbon copy with crumbling schools infrastructure scandals etc. 'Grand National that doesn't start and hotels that fall into the sea'. (Actually mild stuff compared to the present situation). The government are stoney faced quiet they know that their time is up, but it's going to drag on 3 more years. Starmer is not such a great orator but he doesn't really have to be, Sunak is a liability his only ability getting in and out of helicopters, endless PR. So 'inaction man' could stick and of course he is an unelected PM not even by tory MPs. The tory dream of a tax-cutting turn-around, but its a situation they created and will only harm the voters whose support they need. They can't borrow their way out post Truss or get enough investment to produce growth particularly as we no longer have single market access to the EU, there will be some but its more losers than winners. Really HS2 is emblematic of the tories total incompetence. Kier Stramer and his band of idiots will be disastrous for this country. If people think it's bad now, then they will have a rude awakening. Their latest policy on illegal migrants is a wonderful example. Let's hope that voting public realise that Labour policy will make us all a lot poorer.
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Hrolf The Ganger

15 Sep 23 10.42am

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Originally posted by steeleye20

I was looking at John Smith demolishing John Major's tory government on youtube in 1993 today looks like a carbon copy with crumbling schools infrastructure scandals etc.

'Grand National that doesn't start and hotels that fall into the sea'. (Actually mild stuff compared to the present situation).

The government are stoney faced quiet they know that their time is up, but it's going to drag on 3 more years.

Starmer is not such a great orator but he doesn't really have to be, Sunak is a liability his only ability getting in and out of helicopters, endless PR.

So 'inaction man' could stick and of course he is an unelected PM not even by tory MPs.

The tory dream of a tax-cutting turn-around, but its a situation they created and will only harm the voters whose support they need.

Really HS2 is emblematic of the tories total incompetence.

Kier Stramer and his band of idiots will be disastrous for this country.
If people think it's bad now, then they will have a rude awakening. Their latest policy on illegal migrants is a wonderful example.

Let's hope that voting public realise that Labour policy will make us all a lot poorer.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Sep 23 10.50am
Originally posted by steeleye20 I was looking at John Smith demolishing John Major's tory government on youtube in 1993 today looks like a carbon copy with crumbling schools infrastructure scandals etc. 'Grand National that doesn't start and hotels that fall into the sea'. (Actually mild stuff compared to the present situation). The government are stoney faced quiet they know that their time is up, but it's going to drag on 3 more years. Starmer is not such a great orator but he doesn't really have to be, Sunak is a liability his only ability getting in and out of helicopters, endless PR. So 'inaction man' could stick and of course he is an unelected PM not even by tory MPs. The tory dream of a tax-cutting turn-around, but its a situation they created and will only harm the voters whose support they need. They can't borrow their way out post Truss or get enough investment to produce growth particularly as we no longer have single market access to the EU, there will be some but its more losers than winners. Really HS2 is emblematic of the tories total incompetence. That really tickled me for whatever reason, might just be the giddiness of a Friday! If there's one thing that will unite the people of this nation going forward it surely has to be the bottom of the barrel selection of incompetents to vote for. They're all singing from the same hymn sheet as far as I am concerned and cannot even get populism right as they inform all their views of the peasantry from social media these days, an easy to reach platform without getting their shoes muddied. I still hold out hope for a new wave of politician, or even just one, who at least seems cognizant of reality however that day may not come in my lifetime. Arguing between the two parties is like trying to besmirch Sodom from Gomorrah as far as I'm concerned. Or Croydon from Lewisham Both parties an absolute mess. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Sep 23 10.50am

Originally posted by steeleye20

I was looking at John Smith demolishing John Major's tory government on youtube in 1993 today looks like a carbon copy with crumbling schools infrastructure scandals etc.

'Grand National that doesn't start and hotels that fall into the sea'. (Actually mild stuff compared to the present situation).

The government are stoney faced quiet they know that their time is up, but it's going to drag on 3 more years.

Starmer is not such a great orator but he doesn't really have to be, Sunak is a liability his only ability getting in and out of helicopters, endless PR.

So 'inaction man' could stick and of course he is an unelected PM not even by tory MPs.

The tory dream of a tax-cutting turn-around, but its a situation they created and will only harm the voters whose support they need.

Really HS2 is emblematic of the tories total incompetence.

That really tickled me for whatever reason, might just be the giddiness of a Friday!

If there's one thing that will unite the people of this nation going forward it surely has to be the bottom of the barrel selection of incompetents to vote for. They're all singing from the same hymn sheet as far as I am concerned and cannot even get populism right as they inform all their views of the peasantry from social media these days, an easy to reach platform without getting their shoes muddied.

I still hold out hope for a new wave of politician, or even just one, who at least seems cognizant of reality however that day may not come in my lifetime. Arguing between the two parties is like trying to besmirch Sodom from Gomorrah as far as I'm concerned. Or Croydon from Lewisham Both parties an absolute mess.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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