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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Dec 23 8.35pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No danger there. I neither approve nor disapprove. It’s not my business to.

It will be if he decides he's really Tammi Robinson.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 8.36pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

No fan of TR but if he wants to be known by that... I believe Cassius Clay didn't like his birth name either and wasn't too happy with people who continued to refer to him as that.

Edited by Badger11 (11 Dec 2023 2.03pm)

He can decide to be known by whatever name he likes. That’s his decision. As is mine what I call him. I follow the courts. Not Yaxley-Lennon. If he gets upset by it that’s his problem.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 8.42pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

She was not banned from the area, she was banned from protesting. She stood silently praying. She was not arrested until she was asked by the police if she was silently praying and replied that she probably was. She was arrested for silently praying.

No she wasn’t. She could protest and silently pray in millions of other locations without any consequences at all. She was arrested in a small specific location where to do so was considered interfering with the rights of others.

She was warned, having done the same thing several times before, but ignored the warnings. She wanted the publicity and the attention of the gullible. Which she got.

Her transgression wasn’t what she did. It was where she did it.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 8.43pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It will be if he decides he's really Tammi Robinson.

Up to him. It won’t make any difference to me.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Dec 23 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Up to him. It won’t make any difference to me.

It will. Deadnaming is illegal.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 8.51pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Double-barrelled names used to denote that you were probably posh. Nowadays it often just means that you were born out of wedlock.

Is true, but it still sounds posh which might have been the reason he dropped it. Except Lennon is the name of his stepfather whose name he took. His stepfather was apparently another football hooligan who was getting too much attention and suggested to young Steven to change to Tommy Robinson to take the heat off him. Whether true or not, I have no idea. It’s all pretty unsavoury but explains something of why he might be like he is.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 9.00pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It will. Deadnaming is illegal.

No it won’t. It only applies if there is a legal change of name.

If you read what I said previously I accept that if Yaxley-Lennon changes his name legally then I would respect that and use it. So would the courts.

His legal name is Steven Yaxley-Lennon. If it becomes Tasmin Robinson by a legally binding deed poll then fine. Tasmin she will be.

 


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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 11 Dec 23 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No it won’t. It only applies if there is a legal change of name.

If you read what I said previously I accept that if Yaxley-Lennon changes his name legally then I would respect that and use it. So would the courts.

His legal name is Steven Yaxley-Lennon. If it becomes Tasmin Robinson by a legally binding deed poll then fine. Tasmin she will be.

But what if he wants to self-identify between the two and you misname him/her…will you be able to take the abuse that follows? A big crime these days…

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

But what if he wants to self-identify between the two and you misname him/her…will you be able to take the abuse that follows? A big crime these days…

In the infinitesimally unlikely event of this happening then yes. Because it would only be here and I would anticipate support rather than condemnation. In any case I am well used to it.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Dec 23 9.26pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In the infinitesimally unlikely event of this happening then yes. Because it would only be here and I would anticipate support rather than condemnation. In any case I am well used to it.

How about if he becomes a Hollywood star?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 9.51pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I see that Special Counsel Jack Smith has referred the claim made by Trump for immunity in the case against him for attempting to overturn the last election result directly to the Supreme Court.

This claim is widely regarded as a long shot that would always end up in the Supreme Court where, because of that Court’s composition, it stood any chance of success.

The real reason was to delay the trial. It has already been dismissed by the Judge and, of course, appealed. The Appeal is pending. Delays could result in any trial not happening until after the election, which could then set it back another 4 years if Trump won. Who knows what Trump would try to do to the Court, or to the Justice Dept, in those 4 years. You can be sure Mr Smith won’t be the SC.

Now the SC has bypassed the appeal process and gone directly to the Supreme Court with a request for an urgent resolution.

I see this as a big test for the Supreme Court. Will they hear it, or refuse until after an appeal? Will they take their time to list it? Will they take months to reach a decision?

Will those Justices appointed by Trump or who are right leaning anyway allow their political connection to an ex President to interfere with their loyalty to the Constitution? You would hope not, but this is the USA. I can well imagine some of them trying to delay the process in the hope they don’t have to rule on it.

This is a big deal. It’s new territory.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No she wasn’t. She could protest and silently pray in millions of other locations without any consequences at all. She was arrested in a small specific location where to do so was considered interfering with the rights of others.

She was warned, having done the same thing several times before, but ignored the warnings. She wanted the publicity and the attention of the gullible. Which she got.

Her transgression wasn’t what she did. It was where she did it.

Yes she was. In a video of the arrest, one of the six officers dealing with her, is heard telling her: “You’ve said you’ve been engaging in prayer, which is the offense.”

The police have now apologised to her and there will be no further action on the alleged offence.

A judge in Birmingham had already dismissed the first case against her along with that of Father Sean Gough, a Wolverhampton priest also arrested for praying silently.

Suella Braverman wrote to every police force in England and Wales to tell them that silent prayer was not a criminal offense.
In her letter, Braverman said that “silent prayer, within itself, is not unlawful” and that “holding lawful opinions, even if those opinions may offend others, is not a criminal offense.”

The woman involved in this is now, quite rightly, considering whether to sue the police for wrongful arrest and to seek compensation for the ordeal inflicted upon her.

 

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