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 Behind Enemy Lines  Sussex 07 Jun 24 11.41am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Nobody, either the author of that piece or myself, are suggesting that the crimes are not investigated. The question being raised is whether, given the scale of child abuse elsewhere, there is a disproportionate amount of resources being devoted to the grooming gangs? It's a legitimate question and also legitimate to ask why that might be. Suppose rabble-rousers like Yaxley_Lennon wind up Daily Mail readers to the point that the government has to direct the police to spend a disproportionate amount of time and effort on something that denies proper investigations into bigger crimes. Is YL actually helping, or harming victims? An 'interested party' will always claim that resources should be deployed elsewhere and away from their own sphere of unsavoury behaviour. The 'Black' community will tell you that stop and search is racist and should be curtailed. And yet...in the very heart of that community on 2nd May in Brixton, stop and search activity by the Police apprehended some guy called Nur who had carried out 4 knife attacks in that area. He was tooled up when apprehended and it was assumed (but you will say that there was no proof) that he intended to attack again. Just saying.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 07 Jun 24 11.47am |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
An 'interested party' will always claim that resources should be deployed elsewhere and away from their own sphere of unsavoury behaviour. The 'Black' community will tell you that stop and search is racist and should be curtailed. And yet...in the very heart of that community on 2nd May in Brixton, stop and search activity by the Police apprehended some guy called Nur who had carried out 4 knife attacks in that area. He was tooled up when apprehended and it was assumed (but you will say that there was no proof) that he intended to attack again. Just saying. Of course when you ignore crimes for years and then are finally called out for it there is a tendency to throw resources at it. After all you will have a backlog to get through. As Richard Littlejohn keeps reminding the police "And Jimmy Saville is still dead".
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 07 Jun 24 2.46pm |
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you very often see pakistani rape gangs with the same surname repeating again and again....uncles, brothers, sons. Monsters.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 07 Jun 24 3.49pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
you very often see pakistani rape gangs with the same surname repeating again and again....uncles, brothers, sons. Monsters. He makes a fair point. I'd deport them back to pakistan, where the authorities can deal with them. Would anyone care if they were sentenced to death?
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 07 Jun 24 4.19pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He makes a fair point. I'd deport them back to pakistan, where the authorities can deal with them. Would anyone care if they were sentenced to death? My concern, if I’ve understood the article correctly, is that it seems to imply a need for Muslim law to decide crimes committed by Muslims; basically Sharia Law overruling UK law, which is a no-no from me. If the article is suggesting the UK Government changes the punishment to the death penalty for such crimes, then fine. But I’m afraid the opposition from the civil liberties brigade would thwart such an attempt, so even deportation to the ‘homeland’ for such crimes would breach Human Rights laws. Basically we are stuck with these degenerates.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Jun 24 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
My concern, if I’ve understood the article correctly, is that it seems to imply a need for Muslim law to decide crimes committed by Muslims; basically Sharia Law overruling UK law, which is a no-no from me. If the article is suggesting the UK Government changes the punishment to the death penalty for such crimes, then fine. But I’m afraid the opposition from the civil liberties brigade would thwart such an attempt, so even deportation to the ‘homeland’ for such crimes would breach Human Rights laws. Basically we are stuck with these degenerates. Right now we are. Obviously, Sharia Law is not acceptable in Britain for crimes of this nature, but deportation should be an option in such cases. What is most troubling is that we just let hundreds of thousands more pakistanis in last year. Do we never learn? Are we always going to use the 'not all pakistani Muslims are rapists' line as a logical reason to keep compounding an already big problem?
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 07 Jun 24 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Are we always going to use the 'not all pakistani Muslims are rapists' line as a logical reason to keep compounding an already big problem? well i would assume the female ones are not going around raping people ?
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cryrst  The garden of England 07 Jun 24 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
My concern, if I’ve understood the article correctly, is that it seems to imply a need for Muslim law to decide crimes committed by Muslims; basically Sharia Law overruling UK law, which is a no-no from me. If the article is suggesting the UK Government changes the punishment to the death penalty for such crimes, then fine. But I’m afraid the opposition from the civil liberties brigade would thwart such an attempt, so even deportation to the ‘homeland’ for such crimes would breach Human Rights laws. Basically we are stuck with these degenerates. Well if sharia law means these c***s are stoned to death then I’m having five large stones and a bag of gravel please
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 24 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
An 'interested party' will always claim that resources should be deployed elsewhere and away from their own sphere of unsavoury behaviour. The 'Black' community will tell you that stop and search is racist and should be curtailed. And yet...in the very heart of that community on 2nd May in Brixton, stop and search activity by the Police apprehended some guy called Nur who had carried out 4 knife attacks in that area. He was tooled up when apprehended and it was assumed (but you will say that there was no proof) that he intended to attack again. Just saying. With due respect what has that answer got to do with the article I referenced? Which wasn’t written by a member of any marginalised community! She is reporting her own observations and asking a legitimate question. Which no one has yet attempted to answer. Everyone has deflected onto something else.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 24 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Of course when you ignore crimes for years and then are finally called out for it there is a tendency to throw resources at it. After all you will have a backlog to get through. As Richard Littlejohn keeps reminding the police "And Jimmy Saville is still dead". Which means resources are not available to investigate the bulk of child abuses which happen elsewhere. Is that desirable?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 24 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He makes a fair point. I'd deport them back to pakistan, where the authorities can deal with them. Would anyone care if they were sentenced to death? If they have already become British citizens, or were born here, you cannot. Even if not you might run into difficulties with human rights claims.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 07 Jun 24 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
With due respect what has that answer got to do with the article I referenced? Which wasn’t written by a member of any marginalised community! She is reporting her own observations and asking a legitimate question. Which no one has yet attempted to answer. Everyone has deflected onto something else. I’m not sure if the article is really analysing the situation on an apples and apples basis. If other perpetrators are singular groomers, is it easier to investigate grooming gangs (where there is a chance that one member will crack and bring down the other members), or do you concentrate on an individual groomer who may be well versed in deception and more difficult to prosecute. The gang passes girls around; the individual groomer may concentrate on one individual girl.
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