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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Jun 24 12.08pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Poor immigration is a problem made and continued by the politicians of all parties of the UK, i am an immigrant.

What's the Spanish view of immigration , do they need cheap labour, is there an issue with culturally disparate immigrants?

Hear and read a lot about France, Germany, Sweden in particular but not so much about Spain

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Jun 24 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

What's the Spanish view of immigration , do they need cheap labour, is there an issue with culturally disparate immigrants?

Hear and read a lot about France, Germany, Sweden in particular but not so much about Spain

Immigration is an issue, but not the main topic in the recent euro elections PP, the centre right made small gains over PSOE, President Sanchez party, lost some seats so PP hold a 2 seat lead, but there are so many small parties with 4/5 seats, that nobody can organize a coalition, the far right VOX didn't do as well as expected, all small boat immigrants that arrive in Lanzarote, are spotted by the Spanish Navy, and are either sent back to Morocco (agreement) or to Madrid and released, because they are not given anything they tend to find there way to the countries you mentioned, Jobs, Housing and the Health system are the most important things, at the moment, to the Spanish

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Jun 24 3.54pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Immigration is an issue, but not the main topic in the recent euro elections PP, the centre right made small gains over PSOE, President Sanchez party, lost some seats so PP hold a 2 seat lead, but there are so many small parties with 4/5 seats, that nobody can organize a coalition, the far right VOX didn't do as well as expected, all small boat immigrants that arrive in Lanzarote, are spotted by the Spanish Navy, and are either sent back to Morocco (agreement) or to Madrid and released, because they are not given anything they tend to find there way to the countries you mentioned, Jobs, Housing and the Health system are the most important things, at the moment, to the Spanish

Agree with this, but, in Alicante, the amount of immigrants coming in via Algeria is a big concern, mainly because they scatter & then make their way to either Portugal or Northern Spain. Arriving in ports like Southampton, Portsmouth, Weymouth etc etc. Not just about small boats.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jun 24 4.02pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Odd isn't it. Every job I wanted a job they required a CV. If I was not qualified I would not even get an interview.

What are the qualifications for an MP, what experience is required etc.

This is the Labour candidate CV's. The mailshot I get this morning had even less information.

[Link]

Qualifications
"When I was 13, I had an accident that left me unable to walk for four years. And aged 17, I became one of the youngest people in Britain to have a hip replacement. "


Me: So what, I am not voting for a patient but an MP. Glad the NHS helped decades ago.

"I’ve campaigned for disabled people, and built a career getting things done in education and for a tech start-up"

Me: You were an headmaster? know how to manage people and budgets, or were you a teaching assistant? Anyone can have a tech start up the clue is in the name. Was it successful?

You say you were a Campaigner, examples please or were you just a bod who turned up on the marches.

Why should I vote for someone like this. He maybe a great bloke he may even be a great MP if elected but he aint great at applying for the job.

By the way this mailshot just popped through the door it could have been Tory or Lib Dem. His leaflet says nothing so I went to his website which says even less.

Monster Raving Loony Party is looking better and better.


Update
Just had a Lib Dem leaflet this candidate doesn't even explain anything about who she is worse than Labour. What is it with these people.

For the first time in 80 years due to boundary changes the Tory constituency is up for grabs so I am now seeing how the other parties campaign as they all fancy their chances.

Still no wiser about any of the local candidates.

Edited by Badger11 (10 Jun 2024 9.08pm)

 


One more point

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The groover Flag Danbury 10 Jun 24 4.20pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

There is a current problem with immigration, but legal migration.

Mainly the post-brexit importation from India in particular.

The 2023 total of 730,00 is clearly too much, it is typical of the brexiteer fantasy of increased control while having no control at all.

We do need immigration, it is the driver of growth of which we have seen very little since 2010, and to support our public services and the expensive to maintain generation that enabled the tories, the age group 70+.

The numbers of illegal migrants are not enough to make much difference to the figures.


The expensive to maintain generation!!!! Seriously!!! So they pay tax all their lives performing useful roles and then we should bump them off once they reach retirement age. If anything your suggestion should be aimed at those that didn't contribute. Maybe they should face the Logans Run style execution.

That will be you one day. I hope you pop over to Switzerland once you get to that age.

The difference between immigration now and pre-Brexit is that visa's are needed and a minimum salary required.

The idea that immigration is needed to drive growth is a false one. Markets are needed. Therefore increase the living standards of those in the 3rd world and bingo. Massive new markets.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Jun 24 5.40pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'Reform UK candidate apologises for saying Britain should not have fought Hitler'.

He also thought Winston Churchill was 'abysmal', and praised Vladimir Putin, he thinks women are 'spongers' and should be denied healthcare.

I hate to think what his opinion of the D-Day celebrations is.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Jun 24 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Reform UK candidate apologises for saying Britain should not have fought Hitler'.

He also thought Winston Churchill was 'abysmal', and praised Vladimir Putin, he thinks women are 'spongers' and should be denied healthcare.

I hate to think what his opinion of the D-Day celebrations is.

I read this morning that Reform defended his statements saying they opened up a debate on basic truths.

I am sure there is at least one regular poster here who agrees with him. Some of the ideas he has could have come straight from these pages.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Jun 24 7.49pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I read this morning that Reform defended his statements saying they opened up a debate on basic truths.

I am sure there is at least one regular poster here who agrees with him. Some of the ideas he has could have come straight from these pages.

I note you don’t question the context of his statements!
It’s normally your MO.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Jun 24 10.51pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The snap election means vetting hundreds of candidates will result in a few in all parties slipping through the first filters.

The Greens recent prospective
candidates have been culled due to their anti semitic pasts.

Labour in Rotherham etc etc.

Better look at Reform's imaginative economic proposal on BoE QE reserves.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Jun 24 11.36pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I note you don’t question the context of his statements!
It’s normally your MO.

I didn’t comment on them because no comment is needed. They speak for themselves.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Jun 24 6.05am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn’t comment on them because no comment is needed. They speak for themselves.

How so ?

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Jun 24 7.03am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Reform UK candidate apologises for saying Britain should not have fought Hitler'.

He also thought Winston Churchill was 'abysmal', and praised Vladimir Putin, he thinks women are 'spongers' and should be denied healthcare.

I hate to think what his opinion of the D-Day celebrations is.

I don't agree with him however his view actually aligned with many in the government and society in general at the time.

Lord Halifax was very close to becoming PM after Chamberlain and that is exactly what he would have done.

History they say is written by the victors so we have airbrushed from ours that the country especially the elite was split. Many did not want war and wanted to do a deal with Hitler.

I suspect the tide turned in favour of total victory after Dunkirk, foolish comments.

 


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