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andyachtie Monte Giberto 29 Dec 18 9.58am | |
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Surely it is up to Mr. Parish to decide if he wants to sell. He Owns his shares, not you. Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Six years ago Steve Parish was treated with godlike reverence on this forum and could do no wrong. There were three of us who questioned some of the things that he did and said and we were quite severely abused as a result which makes it rather amusing that over the years more and more people have come to realise that Mr P wasn't the re-incarnation of Mother Theresa but a local businessman who saw an opportunity for a fairly risk free venture coupled with an opportunity to raise his personal profile. I won't comment on his current strategy until the window closes but if he does try to wing it again then I will join the increasing chorus of people suggesting that his time at Palace is up and he should consider selling up
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MKCPFC Spain/MK 29 Dec 18 10.20am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Six years ago Steve Parish was treated with godlike reverence on this forum and could do no wrong. There were three of us who questioned some of the things that he did and said and we were quite severely abused as a result which makes it rather amusing that over the years more and more people have come to realise that Mr P wasn't the re-incarnation of Mother Theresa but a local businessman who saw an opportunity for a fairly risk free venture coupled with an opportunity to raise his personal profile. I won't comment on his current strategy until the window closes but if he does try to wing it again then I will join the increasing chorus of people suggesting that his time at Palace is up and he should consider selling up Very smug post , shouldn't you have waited until Steve has bankrupted us and led us to League Two .
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bexleydave Barnehurst 29 Dec 18 10.26am | |
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Originally posted by andyachtie
Surely it is up to Mr. Parish to decide if he wants to sell. He Owns his shares, not you.
My personal opinion is that Parish has taken the club as far as he wants to and is now treading water, and the Americans have bought very little, if anything, to the party. It's probably time that the current owners sold to a buyer who is prepared to invest heavily in the infrastructure and move us forward in a sustainable way. So far we have very little tangible to show for our now sixth season in the PL.
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bexleydave Barnehurst 29 Dec 18 10.31am | |
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Originally posted by MKCPFC
Very smug post , shouldn't you have waited until Steve has bankrupted us and led us to League Two .
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Dec 18 10.43am | |
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Originally posted by MKCPFC
Very smug post , shouldn't you have waited until Steve has bankrupted us and led us to League Two . Seriously ? I actually think the majority of our fan base actually have reasonably low and realistic expectations. And I include myself in that group. What I do expect however is a club being run with a coherent transfer policy and an infrastructure resourced by properly qualified personnel. And I see no evidence of that. The recent upturn in results, together with the likely return to fitness of Wickham and Benteke, should not disguise the fact that we still need strengthening upfront. But from Roy's comments on another thread, it looks like Parish could be using the above to avoid going into the market - let's see.
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Painter Croydon 29 Dec 18 11.04am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Six years ago Steve Parish was treated with godlike reverence on this forum and could do no wrong. There were three of us who questioned some of the things that he did and said and we were quite severely abused as a result which makes it rather amusing that over the years more and more people have come to realise that Mr P wasn't the re-incarnation of Mother Theresa but a local businessman who saw an opportunity for a fairly risk free venture coupled with an opportunity to raise his personal profile. I won't comment on his current strategy until the window closes but if he does try to wing it again then I will join the increasing chorus of people suggesting that his time at Palace is up and he should consider selling up Parish is first and foremost a businessman and profit is the main inspiration, this is the same for any other Premier owner.
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taylors lovechild 29 Dec 18 11.48am | |
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We are the 11th biggest spenders in the league. Since being promoted we have an average finishing position of 12th. Whilst it would be good to finish higher up the table, the reality is we have been finishing where a club our size would be expected to finish by a neutral. Every club has made transfer mistakes. Many clubs think their club is being run poorly. We are not on the verge of administration, we are not selling our biggest stars, we have introduced one of the PL's brightest stars from our academy and we have signed what looks to be three very good additions in Meyer, Kouyate and Vicente for a combined £10m. Our one flop from the summer is only on loan. Although I'd like to swap one of our strikers for someone who might score it doesn't look too shabby to me.
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Eaglecoops CR3 29 Dec 18 12.18pm | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
We are the 11th biggest spenders in the league. Since being promoted we have an average finishing position of 12th. Whilst it would be good to finish higher up the table, the reality is we have been finishing where a club our size would be expected to finish by a neutral. Every club has made transfer mistakes. Many clubs think their club is being run poorly. We are not on the verge of administration, we are not selling our biggest stars, we have introduced one of the PL's brightest stars from our academy and we have signed what looks to be three very good additions in Meyer, Kouyate and Vicente for a combined £10m. Our one flop from the summer is only on loan. Although I'd like to swap one of our strikers for someone who might score it doesn't look too shabby to me. Bang on. I actually think that our transfers recently have improved. There are way too many on here who think that running a multi million pound business is easy.
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dannyboy1978 29 Dec 18 12.23pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
My personal opinion is that Parish has taken the club as far as he wants to and is now treading water, and the Americans have bought very little, if anything, to the party. It's probably time that the current owners sold to a buyer who is prepared to invest heavily in the infrastructure and move us forward in a sustainable way. So far we have very little tangible to show for our now sixth season in the PL. What would you like him to bring to the "party" What is it you would do?
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Dec 18 12.41pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
What would you like him to bring to the "party" What is it you would do? Buying £30 million CB’s doesn’t suggest the club is run brilliantly and its transfer policy sound. New stand getting approval? When? When will it be built? 2040? Training ground is going to be leased and it’s still not going to be up there with what a Prem club’s should be. Scouting and transfer policy is mainly a joke, and that’s because we run out of funds some time after buying £30 million players and the scouting is p1ss poor and Parish surrounds himself with ex players without one day of experience or contacts. Meyer, Kouyate and Vicente were very good additions, as I thought and hoped they would be, but do you not remember when it looked like they were bought because they were available rather than they fit into Roy’s 4-4-2 or nothing system? Last January was so pathetic it was almost unbelievable. What needs to happen is for us to plan for not only the next window but actually have further windows in mind. There’s some indication that’s happening and hopefully after clawing out of the bottom 3 there might be some effort to have future windows in mind, because for too long we haven’t, and a lot of that is to do with Parish making repeated mistakes, not equipping the managers in August and then spending more than in January than we would’ve done in August. And then there’s the managers not having a pre season with the new players. The new transfer deadline before the first game may help us, something Parish was against. Strange view that one. Something that contributes to putting us in this cycle he wanted to keep.
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dannyboy1978 29 Dec 18 12.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Buying £30 million CB’s doesn’t suggest the club is run brilliantly and its transfer policy sound. New stand getting approval? When? When will it be built? 2040? Training ground is going to be leased and it’s still not going to be up there with what a Prem club’s should be. Scouting and transfer policy is mainly a joke, and that’s because we run out of funds some time after buying £30 million players and the scouting is p1ss poor and Parish surrounds himself with ex players without one day of experience or contacts. Meyer, Kouyate and Vicente were very good additions, as I thought and hoped they would be, but do you not remember when it looked like they were bought because they were available rather than they fit into Roy’s 4-4-2 or nothing system? Last January was so pathetic it was almost unbelievable. What needs to happen is for us to plan for not only the next window but actually have further windows in mind. There’s some indication that’s happening and hopefully after clawing out of the bottom 3 there might be some effort to have future windows in mind, because for too long we haven’t, and a lot of that is to do with Parish making repeated mistakes, not equipping the managers in August and then spending more than in January than we would’ve done in August. And then there’s the managers not having a pre season with the new players. The new transfer deadline before the first game may help us, something Parish was against. Strange view that one. Something that contributes to putting us in this cycle he wanted to keep. 85% of our buys have been great! You are very glass half empty. A bit more depth would be nice but our quality has improved over the last 5 years. I am a happy realistic palace fan, sorry your not.
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steve1984 29 Dec 18 1.00pm | |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Until the setup changes and the model adjusted, any manager that can tread water is in truth doing a fantastic job I would argue that treading water / mid table "mediocrity" is the holy grail for every club outside the big 5 or 6. The only thing that can move a club from the treading water category into the top 6 is a foreign investor with silly money. So unless that happens then we've already reached the promised land.
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