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Tom-the-eagle  Croydon 21 Jun 17 8.28am |
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Simon Cowell has now released a Grenfell Tower charity single. Haven't the residents been through enough?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 21 Jun 17 9.26am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Simon Cowell has now released a Grenfell Tower charity single. Haven't the residents been through enough? Are the day of rage people going to occupy Simon's house? After all, he must be a principle cause of all evil mustn't he? If we only give all his money to those that don't have as much, everything will be all right. Edited by hedgehog50 (21 Jun 2017 10.59am)
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 npn Crowborough 21 Jun 17 10.27am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Appears that the 'renovation' work was not actually signed off! No it doesn't: an online statement from Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea read: "Please note that the status ‘Completed Not approved’ does not mean that the work was not approved under the Building Regulations. "The formal signing off of the work was provided by a completion certificate and not by a full plans decision notice, which was not required in this case. The system status “Not approved” appears because a decision notice was not issued. However, a completion certificate was issued signing off the works under the Building Regulations."
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 10.44am |
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Originally posted by npn
No it doesn't: an online statement from Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea read: "Please note that the status ‘Completed Not approved’ does not mean that the work was not approved under the Building Regulations. "The formal signing off of the work was provided by a completion certificate and not by a full plans decision notice, which was not required in this case. The system status “Not approved” appears because a decision notice was not issued. However, a completion certificate was issued signing off the works under the Building Regulations." Thanks for clearing that up. Who signed the completion certificate? Theyve probably left the country.
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| npn Crowborough 21 Jun 17 11.02am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Thanks for clearing that up. Who signed the completion certificate? Theyve probably left the country. How on earth would I know that? There are regulations in place - it may well be that this horrible event will lead to tightening up of some regulations (certainly cladding any building in flammable material seems crazy to me, but I'm a layman and have no relevant knowledge). This is why I find this "day of rage" farcical - what are we raging at? There are still unidentified bodies in the building, we have no knowledge of what went wrong and what the underlying cause was. It's fine to be angry (a natural reaction to death) but to call people out on the streets to be directed to be angry at who you want them to be angry at (I assume it will turn into an anti-Tory demo as these things will) is both pointless and irresponsible until more is known about what has gone on.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 11.09am |
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Originally posted by npn
How on earth would I know that? There are regulations in place - it may well be that this horrible event will lead to tightening up of some regulations (certainly cladding any building in flammable material seems crazy to me, but I'm a layman and have no relevant knowledge). This is why I find this "day of rage" farcical - what are we raging at? There are still unidentified bodies in the building, we have no knowledge of what went wrong and what the underlying cause was. It's fine to be angry (a natural reaction to death) but to call people out on the streets to be directed to be angry at who you want them to be angry at (I assume it will turn into an anti-Tory demo as these things will) is both pointless and irresponsible until more is known about what has gone on.
Changing tack, to add to my anger, the tenants association wanted to take the almo to court around safety fears but were prevented because access to legal aid has gone (because , get this, it favoured the rich). So not only were their concerns ignored, they were prevented from taking the matter further. Now is it political or not to take away help for the less well off in legal matters? I'd say it is. Edited by nickgusset (21 Jun 2017 11.10am)
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Jun 17 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Simon Cowell has now released a Grenfell Tower charity single. Haven't the residents been through enough?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 1.23pm |
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 21 Jun 17 2.00pm |
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Government has bought 68 flats for the survivors not far from the Grenfell Tower
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| Charlie Croker Hampshire 21 Jun 17 2.01pm |
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Jun 17 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Government has bought 68 flats for the survivors not far from the Grenfell Tower Pretty fast action by the government to be honest, thoughts Nick?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Pretty fast action by the government to be honest, thoughts Nick? Good. Funny how they can find places when put under a bit of pressure. Only another 1200 dormant properties left in the borough.
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