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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 21 Apr 17 4.01pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

But surely building more homes...dilutes the market...thereby reducing the value and as such meaning that investing in property wouldn't be a good idea?

I'm referring to a significant move from UK ownership to overseas ownership of property, and that's commercial and residential property. Not really about the merits of investing in property. I was also pointing out that an investment in property from overseas buyers doesn't actually have any real productive benefit for the economy and in fact acts as a diversion of resources out of the economy as rents are paid by UK occupiers to overseas landlords.

In terms of market dynamics you need to consider the demand side of the equation, but also supply leaving housing stock in addition to new housing.

As to whether it's a good idea it depends on how long you intend to hold the asset and the level of income it generates, not simply what happens to capital value over time.

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 21 Apr 17 4.02pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

I'm referring to a significant move from UK ownership to overseas ownership of property, and that's commercial and residential property. Not really about the merits of investing in property. I was also pointing out that an investment in property from overseas buyers doesn't actually have any real productive benefit for the economy and in fact acts as a diversion of resources out of the economy as rents are paid by UK occupiers to overseas landlords.

In terms of market dynamics you need to consider the demand side of the equation, but also supply leaving housing stock in addition to new housing.

As to whether it's a good idea it depends on how long you intend to hold the asset and the level of income it generates, not simply what happens to capital value over time.

Are you Jamiemartin playing a new character?

 


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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 21 Apr 17 4.02pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The problem is that everyone has rather large mortgages. Ignoring economic reasons for a crash, if I have a £200k Mortgage on a £300k house and it drops to £275k, I am suddenly in negative equity and stuck where I am. I wouldn't be able to move freeing up property at the lower end

No you're not! Value must be lower than outstanding debt to be in negative equity.

 

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Part Time James Flag 21 Apr 17 4.02pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

Are you Jamiemartin playing a new character?

yes, he's re-rolled because he got bored of being a Dwarf Ice-Mage.

Edited by Part Time James (21 Apr 2017 4.03pm)

 




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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 21 Apr 17 4.04pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

I should say I didn't change my mind entirely based on the post. It got me thinking and then my thoughts were fleshed out in a not very impartial article I subsequently read elsewhere, leading me to conclude that the HOL poster (possibly Hrolf) made sense.

I have just seen HtG post about Jeremy Corbyn having his face tattood on N's arse so that must be the one you mean.

So that has made you change your voting intention?

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Apr 17 4.06pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

Has anyone changed their voting intentions based upon the previous pages of this thread?

What a great question...

I like the 'ideal' that some of what Corbyn has said...I just cant bring myself to believe that in the real world it'll cause anything but pain and debt to deliver.

That's not to say it cant be done...but don't flower it up as to be some sort of Eutopia...also as history shows to be the case...idealists don't necessarily make the most pragmatic of people....just look at Trump...voted in on rhetoric...and has since hit so many obstacles that half of what he said is dust...because his ideals hit the real world.

 


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europalace Flag Europe 21 Apr 17 4.07pm Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The problem is that everyone has rather large mortgages. Ignoring economic reasons for a crash, if I have a £200k Mortgage on a £300k house and it drops to £275k, I am suddenly in negative equity and stuck where I am. I wouldn't be able to move freeing up property at the lower end


In that economic climate, many would have problems meeting their mortgage payments due to employement becoming harder to find and would have to downsize. Taking your example, you could sell at £275k and buy a place for £250k paying off the £25k owed and having a smaller mortgage.

A property correction in the UK is overdue and when Sterling strengthens by another 5-10% over the next 12-24month months many overseas buyers who bought last year will be selling up to bank their profits pushing prices lower.

Edited by europalace (21 Apr 2017 4.10pm)

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Apr 17 4.07pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

yes, he's re-rolled because he got bored of being a Dwarf Ice-Mage.

Edited by Part Time James (21 Apr 2017 4.03pm)

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Apr 17 4.09pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The problem is that everyone has rather large mortgages. Ignoring economic reasons for a crash, if I have a £200k Mortgage on a £300k house and it drops to £275k, I am suddenly in negative equity and stuck where I am. I wouldn't be able to move freeing up property at the lower end

and in the one succinct post you have the difference between an ideology and the real world...I have no doubt though that there is some solution...but it would take years...perhaps decades to address.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Apr 17 4.10pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Sorry I thought you quoted Bromley....

I did, but the cash crisis is national.

 

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Part Time James Flag 21 Apr 17 4.10pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I have just seen HtG post about Jeremy Corbyn having his face tattood on N's arse so that must be the one you mean.

So that has made you change your voting intention?

Hahaha!

I should probably actually admit that I haven't changed my mind in that I have decided how I will vote. Just that the stance I thought I might take has a different angle to it (I realise my past postings on this forum make it just sound like I am talking about sex positions).

There's some campaigning to take place first though. It'd possibly be naive to put my eggs in a party basket right now when I haven't heard what they've got to say. That said, party politics might be more relevant this time around for reasons other posters have previously stated. I.e.: the pressure it puts on Theresa May to attempt to deliver Brexit a certain way.

 




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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 21 Apr 17 4.12pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

Are you Jamiemartin playing a new character?

They call it style Matt - you wouldn't understand.

 

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