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leggedstruggle Croydon 04 Aug 15 11.10am
Quote johnfirewall at 04 Aug 2015 11.01am Quote legaleagle at 03 Aug 2015 10.12pm Blimey,might be an idea if you actually read the thread before posting.What's up,upset FUE hasn't recruited you yet for the killing fields? In terms of each of your carefully thought through paragraphs. 1.Where precisely have I advocated offering admission to all at Calais?Answer:I haven't. 2. I've put up a refugee in the past.Have you? I've made very clear (and why) I don't, unlike the poster you quote, refuse to even contemplate the idea of living with an economic migrant (you'd also appreciate from my earlier posts its more than likely at some point I had shared a house with an economic migrant (which is the case;my grandmother!!!!).Read the whole thread. 3.See 1 and 2 above,Read the whole thread. 4.See 1. above. Why wouldn't you admit them all? Edited by leggedstruggle (04 Aug 2015 11.11am) mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 04 Aug 15 11.10am

Quote johnfirewall at 04 Aug 2015 11.01am

Quote legaleagle at 03 Aug 2015 10.12pm

Blimey,might be an idea if you actually read the thread before posting.What's up,upset FUE hasn't recruited you yet for the killing fields?

In terms of each of your carefully thought through paragraphs.

1.Where precisely have I advocated offering admission to all at Calais?Answer:I haven't.

2. I've put up a refugee in the past.Have you? I've made very clear (and why) I don't, unlike the poster you quote, refuse to even contemplate the idea of living with an economic migrant (you'd also appreciate from my earlier posts its more than likely at some point I had shared a house with an economic migrant (which is the case;my grandmother!!!!).Read the whole thread.

3.See 1 and 2 above,Read the whole thread.

4.See 1. above.

Why wouldn't you admit them all?

Edited by leggedstruggle (04 Aug 2015 11.11am)

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Aug 15 11.20am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Aug 15 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go.

I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of.

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ?

I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc.

I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid.

It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Aug 15 11.22am
Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. You obviously haven't read the whole thread...
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Shizzlehurst 04 Aug 15 11.22am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

You obviously haven't read the whole thread...

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Aug 15 11.24am
Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.22am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s*, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. You obviously haven't read the whole thread... And you havent picked any holes in my post, and I'm at work nick not a six week paid sabitical, so yes your right I havent read a nearly 50 page thread. And just food for thought, why should a property owner (whether its empty or not) be forced to fill it with honmless people? he owns it, his/hers to do what ever the f* they want with it, being forced to give it over to homeless people is as absurd as it is legally impossible to enforce. Wouldnt it be better to force the housing market down, with cheaper housing for all, and more money spent by the Governments both left and right, on housing for every body, why with you lot has always got to be the well off or middle classes who are to blame for all the worlds ill's to be honest, it's a tired and old argument that holds no water at all. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 11.30am) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Aug 15 11.24am

Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.22am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

You obviously haven't read the whole thread...

And you havent picked any holes in my post, and I'm at work nick not a six week paid sabitical, so yes your right I havent read a nearly 50 page thread.

And just food for thought, why should a property owner (whether its empty or not) be forced to fill it with honmless people? he owns it, his/hers to do what ever the f*** they want with it, being forced to give it over to homeless people is as absurd as it is legally impossible to enforce.

Wouldnt it be better to force the housing market down, with cheaper housing for all, and more money spent by the Governments both left and right, on housing for every body, why with you lot has always got to be the well off or middle classes who are to blame for all the worlds ill's to be honest, it's a tired and old argument that holds no water at all.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 11.30am)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Aug 15 11.31am
Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.24am Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.22am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. You obviously haven't read the whole thread... And you havent picked any holes in my post. Britain is one of the lowest European payers in benefits to 'immigrants'. Why do people (of a right leaning persuasion) think those on the left all hold the same views? Why do people treat those at Calais as a homogeneous mass of theiving chancers? Probably the same people who think all scousers are thieving bin dippers.
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Shizzlehurst 04 Aug 15 11.31am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.24am

Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.22am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

You obviously haven't read the whole thread...

And you havent picked any holes in my post.

Britain is one of the lowest European payers in benefits to 'immigrants'.

Why do people (of a right leaning persuasion) think those on the left all hold the same views?
Why do people treat those at Calais as a homogeneous mass of theiving chancers?
Probably the same people who think all scousers are thieving bin dippers.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 04 Aug 15 11.45am
Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. The leftist socialist knobs who post on here are demonic little cretins. They all have pictures of comrade Stalin on their bedroom walls, about 5-6 boxes of tissues on their bedside table, are totally disowned by their parents, have long greasy hair and usually smell badly of B.O and have questionable hygiene. Their views of the world are totally unrealistic and they are filled with hatred, especially towards women as women shun them for being butt ugly. Their views are irrelevant. Don't bother asking them questions or for their point of view as it really doesn't matter.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 04 Aug 15 11.45am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

The leftist socialist knobs who post on here are demonic little cretins. They all have pictures of comrade Stalin on their bedroom walls, about 5-6 boxes of tissues on their bedside table, are totally disowned by their parents, have long greasy hair and usually smell badly of B.O and have questionable hygiene. Their views of the world are totally unrealistic and they are filled with hatred, especially towards women as women shun them for being butt ugly. Their views are irrelevant. Don't bother asking them questions or for their point of view as it really doesn't matter.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Aug 15 11.46am
Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.31am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.24am Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.22am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s*, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. You obviously haven't read the whole thread... And you havent picked any holes in my post. Britain is one of the lowest European payers in benefits to 'immigrants'. Why do people (of a right leaning persuasion) think those on the left all hold the same views? Why do people treat those at Calais as a homogeneous mass of theiving chancers? Probably the same people who think all scousers are thieving bin dippers. What's next, Nick? Hug a hoodie? You're becoming more Tory every day. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham**
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Clapham on the Back 04 Aug 15 11.46am

Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.31am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.24am

Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.22am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

You obviously haven't read the whole thread...

And you havent picked any holes in my post.

Britain is one of the lowest European payers in benefits to 'immigrants'.

What's next, Nick? Hug a hoodie? You're becoming more Tory every day.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Aug 15 11.49am
Quote fed up eagle at 04 Aug 2015 11.45am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. The leftist socialist knobs who post on here are demonic little cretins. They all have pictures of comrade Stalin on their bedroom walls, about 5-6 boxes of tissues on their bedside table, are totally disowned by their parents, have long greasy hair and usually smell badly of B.O and have questionable hygiene. Their views of the world are totally unrealistic and they are filled with hatred, especially towards women as women shun them for being butt ugly. Their views are irrelevant. Don't bother asking them questions or for their point of view as it really doesn't matter. Where as you make such reasoned and well structured arguments. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 04 Aug 15 11.49am

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Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

Where as you make such reasoned and well structured arguments.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Aug 15 11.49am
Quote fed up eagle at 04 Aug 2015 11.45am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. The leftist socialist knobs who post on here are demonic little cretins. They all have pictures of comrade Stalin on their bedroom walls, about 5-6 boxes of tissues on their bedside table, are totally disowned by their parents, have long greasy hair and usually smell badly of B.O and have questionable hygiene. Their views of the world are totally unrealistic and they are filled with hatred, especially towards women as women shun them for being butt ugly. Their views are irrelevant. Don't bother asking them questions or for their point of view as it really doesn't matter. Just out of interest? How old are you? 4
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Shizzlehurst 04 Aug 15 11.49am

Quote fed up eagle at 04 Aug 2015 11.45am

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Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

Just out of interest? How old are you? 4

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Aug 15 11.49am
Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s*, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. You are cooking with gas today, Danny boy. Keep it up! Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham**
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Clapham on the Back 04 Aug 15 11.49am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

You are cooking with gas today, Danny boy.

Keep it up!

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 04 Aug 15 11.55am
Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.49am Quote fed up eagle at 04 Aug 2015 11.45am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s*, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic? As is the norm for the writers of the socialist liberal trotsky herald that guest write on the HOL whenever a good anti british thread emerges, when confronted with logical argumen, you get ignored, then they pick on some right wing nutter to hide the reasoned right view posts, that point out something which they have no answer for. The leftist socialist knobs who post on here are demonic little cretins. They all have pictures of comrade Stalin on their bedroom walls, about 5-6 boxes of tissues on their bedside table, are totally disowned by their parents, have long greasy hair and usually smell badly of B.O and have questionable hygiene. Their views of the world are totally unrealistic and they are filled with hatred, especially towards women as women shun them for being butt ugly. Their views are irrelevant. Don't bother asking them questions or for their point of view as it really doesn't matter. Just out of interest? How old are you? 4** I could ask you the same question but as anything about you is irrelevant to me I shan't bother asking you.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 04 Aug 15 11.55am

Quote nickgusset at 04 Aug 2015 11.49am

Quote fed up eagle at 04 Aug 2015 11.45am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 11.20am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 04 Aug 2015 10.20am

Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

Absolutely spot on danny........ surely no one can argue with this simple logic?

Just out of interest? How old are you? 4

I could ask you the same question but as anything about you is irrelevant to me I shan't bother asking you.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Aug 15 11.56am
Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am Whilst I personally feel FUE has made a rod for his own back, and to some extent over shot his argument somewhat. You cant argue with the undeniable fact that Immigrants regardless of their validity, are being housed when British citizens are sleeping rough and have no where to go. I believe there are approx 6-9000 homeless people in the UK that have served with the armed forces. I don’t wish to separate and divide into sub categories of homeless people because if your homeless, your homeless end of. However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered. Charity should begin at home, and after a quick search, neither the left or right governments of recent years has given any money to help homeless veterans, it's all done through charitable organisations, yet they are quite happy to throw tax payers money at illegal immigrants ? I just want to make it clear I am only bringing up the plight of homeless ex service men and women rather than homelessness as a whole, as IMO surely having served their country, they are a more deserving case than someone who is claiming to be a refugee, and yet has completely ignored several SAFE states before becoming a vandal and criminally trying to enter the UK so he/she can get a nice new house flat etc etc. I am sure there are genuine cases amongst the throng of benefit tourists, however I don’t really care, not while we have homeless CHILDREN living on our streets who have to turn to all manner of seedy s***, just to get by and not starve to death. Giving any aid to the immigrants trying to illegally enter the country when we have a very serious homeless problem within our own borders is to be blunt fcking stupid. It’s almost as if being white and British in Britain makes you bottom of the list for any housing that may or may not be available. So whilst FUE has lost the plot a wee bit, the problem at the heart of his (somewhat overstated) argument is a very real one. Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am) I don't think it really makes a difference whether you're ex-services or just a citizen, homelessness is the great shame of the UK. As for veterans, well part of the problem stems from both sides of the houses increase desire to save spending, often meaning that when an individual leaves the armed services, the NHS and MOD both refuse to accept responsibility for rehabilitation treatment. Simiarly, groups like the mentally ill and addicts tend to fall between the cracks of different departments arguing who should be resolving the issue, or just plain underfunding. Changes in how benefits are claimed and paid hasn't helped the situation either, making it harder to get out of trouble. I don't particularly worry about benefits tourism, because its not a major problem (you have to earn the right to benefits or be in the process of being processed for Asylum). The problem has always been that 'invisible groups' in society bear the brunt of the states failure to live up to its responsibilities. Similarly to how illegal immigration is blamed on the migrants, and not the successive cuts and failures made with the border agencies funding and infrastructure. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote dannyh at 04 Aug 2015 8.34am

However surely the fact you served your country, should put you ahead of someone who has just rocked up with their hand out literally demanding to be housed, fed and watered.

Edited by dannyh (04 Aug 2015 8.35am)

I don't think it really makes a difference whether you're ex-services or just a citizen, homelessness is the great shame of the UK.

As for veterans, well part of the problem stems from both sides of the houses increase desire to save spending, often meaning that when an individual leaves the armed services, the NHS and MOD both refuse to accept responsibility for rehabilitation treatment. Simiarly, groups like the mentally ill and addicts tend to fall between the cracks of different departments arguing who should be resolving the issue, or just plain underfunding.

Changes in how benefits are claimed and paid hasn't helped the situation either, making it harder to get out of trouble.

I don't particularly worry about benefits tourism, because its not a major problem (you have to earn the right to benefits or be in the process of being processed for Asylum).

The problem has always been that 'invisible groups' in society bear the brunt of the states failure to live up to its responsibilities. Similarly to how illegal immigration is blamed on the migrants, and not the successive cuts and failures made with the border agencies funding and infrastructure.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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