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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 8.47pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Not my point. Those who voted for Brexit would rather have Brexit than any amount of BBC confirmation. I don't suppose anyone even thought about it then. It would be interesting to know what the people, as a whole, think about Brexit now. Although I suspect most are still in "the relieved it's all over" phase and too busy coping with the pandemic to give it much thought. Let's see in 5 or 10 years time.
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cryrst  The garden of England 08 Sep 21 8.53pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't suppose anyone even thought about it then. It would be interesting to know what the people, as a whole, think about Brexit now. Although I suspect most are still in "the relieved it's all over" phase and too busy coping with the pandemic to give it much thought. Let's see in 5 or 10 years time. What is it 5 years or 10 years. Both are quite a long time.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
Show me any study that indicated the BBC represented equally consistently those who supported Brexit on its programmes? Remainers were consistently the majority over months. This was a dominance. As a Labour voter who did not vote UKIP, Brexit party I can accept the evidence that was presented as facts in the media. I could also view it to confirm further a totally lop side support for remain, fair representation became a rarity. I am not aware of any objective, independent study specifically on this issue which either proves, or disproves your assertion. That it was a common perception among Leavers is certainly true, but it might surprise them to know that precisely the opposite perception was held by many Remainers. If you are seriously seeking information, rather than simply wanting to bang a drum, take a look at these:-
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 9.21pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
The Americans are an even more divided electorate than we are. So what they were thinking has no answer. More of them saw Biden as a short term expedient than wanted to prolong the Trump experiment. When Trump then sought to overturn the result with spurious claims of interference, none of which stood up to serious investigation, that divide intensified. Biden not being Trump remains his biggest asset.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 9.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Gather together? This guy talks so much waffle he could sell a line of them to Tescos. We aren't young pups, green from a lack of life experience....those tend to be on the left. My opinions come grounded from actual practical experience, not wishful thinking....I'm bounded to an interest in truth over convenient lies. Even if that's not a position that will always repay you well. After a while, people get a sense of personalities on Hol and who amongst us are willing to be honest and those amongst us who are fallacious sophists, willing to knowingly obfuscate and bend narratives to suit. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Sep 2021 4.34pm) Older people can just as easily gather in virtual groups to confirm their biases as "young pups"! If you don't think that happens here, that can only be because you are so immersed in the group's rhetoric you are blind to it. I don't think it's arguable. This group consistently regard their own opinions as the truth, just as you do in your comment. Other opinions are "lies". Thus, the BBC are biased, but the group aren't. Etc, etc. And people, like me, who point this out just "waffle".
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What is it 5 years or 10 years. Both are quite a long time. Impossible to yet know when the tide will turn. Too many variables. Neither is actually that long. The Brexit vote was already 5 years ago.
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| cryrst The garden of England 08 Sep 21 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Impossible to yet know when the tide will turn. Too many variables. Neither is actually that long. The Brexit vote was already 5 years ago. The tide has turned and the UK is only 4% behind financially than prior to covid. Brexit hasn't created the damage you hoped!
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 08 Sep 21 10.24pm |
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The US election was 51% to 49%. How does that make the Americans more divided? Please explain A greater division would mean a larger gap. They are almost equally divided. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The Americans are an even more divided electorate than we are. So what they were thinking has no answer. More of them saw Biden as a short term expedient than wanted to prolong the Trump experiment. When Trump then sought to overturn the result with spurious claims of interference, none of which stood up to serious investigation, that divide intensified. Biden not being Trump remains his biggest asset.
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| cryrst The garden of England 08 Sep 21 10.29pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
The US election was 51% to 49%. How does that make the Americans more divided? Please explain A greater division would mean a larger gap. They are almost equally divided.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 08 Sep 21 10.30pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Parts of the Internet that are not accessible via typical browsing. So of course no, using a VPN has little to do with it. Whereas something like TOR would be. I would suggest that being a bit naughty and downloading a blockbuster movie over VPN might be a good use of that technology in terms of obscuring this fact from an ISP. However, it would be foolish to imagine that governments aren't easily able to circumvent that. Networks that more successfully anonymise those using in like TOR, clearly have many legitimate users but also attract hordes those wanting to mask their activity for more nefarious reasons. We already know this, it's not news. I would suggest that everybody using such networks is by default likely on a government watchlist due to the significantly increased concerns around the platform. It raises difficult questions about privacy vs the need to protect the vulnerable and tackle extremist. Maybe, you seem to know some of the facts. But do realise that Tor is also used by whistleblowers and victims of crime, as well as journalists and their sources. Sometimes, anonymity is vital.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 11.37pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
The US election was 51% to 49%. How does that make the Americans more divided? Please explain A greater division would mean a larger gap. They are almost equally divided. You knew what was meant. Semantics!
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Sep 21 6.46am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The Americans are an even more divided electorate than we are. So what they were thinking has no answer. More of them saw Biden as a short term expedient than wanted to prolong the Trump experiment. When Trump then sought to overturn the result with spurious claims of interference, none of which stood up to serious investigation, that divide intensified. Biden not being Trump remains his biggest asset. But biden being biden could be his biggest failure !
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