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Tom-the-eagle  Croydon 30 Jul 20 10.31pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The 'great' Roy Jones Jr was totally humiliated by Joe Calzaghe. Jones might have been past his best when they fought but the Americans were always been reluctant to recognise Calzaghe as the best of the best.
Jones did things in the ring I have never seen done by another boxer.
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 Stirlingsays 31 Jul 20 6.05am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
In my opinion Joe C is possibly the best fighter this country has ever produced, however a prime Roy beats a prime Joe every time. Jones did things in the ring I have never seen done by another boxer. I tend to agree. Still, while I think when it comes to reflexes Jones was something else it has to be said that if a non great like Tarver had the answer who is to say others wouldn't have. I suppose there isn't such a thing as an unbeatable fighter.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 31 Jul 20 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Jones did things in the ring I have never seen done by another boxer. He was a great fighter but tarnished his reputation by cherry picking fights and avoiding some of the greats.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 31 Jul 20 9.51am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
He was a great fighter but tarnished his reputation by cherry picking fights and avoiding some of the greats. Roy never cherry picked anyone. He fought Tarver
Until he lost to Tarver he was pretty much unstoppable, however he became shot very quickly and that is what tarnished his reputation. Who do you think he avoided Badger?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 31 Jul 20 11.49am |
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Interesting article about his career. He certainly divides opinion, he is a great I am not denying that but the quality of some of his opponents was not.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 31 Jul 20 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Interesting article about his career. He certainly divides opinion, he is a great I am not denying that but the quality of some of his opponents was not. Just putting this back at you Badger my friend, who did he duck? I can’t think of anyone.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 31 Jul 20 1.43pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Just putting this back at you Badger my friend, who did he duck? I can’t think of anyone. I'd have to go back through the records and to be honest I can't be bothered. It's an opinion that some experts share never the less I bow to your greater knowledge.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 31 Jul 20 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I'd have to go back through the records and to be honest I can't be bothered. It's an opinion that some experts share never the less I bow to your greater knowledge. Tom 1. Badger 0.
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| Eaglehamster Storrington 31 Jul 20 5.01pm |
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I've always wondered why the was no fight between Joe Calzaghe and Steve Collins. Would have been interesting.
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djcpfc  Within a 5 minute walk 31 Jul 20 5.09pm |
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He avoided Collins that’s for sure. He was a good fighter a Super-middle but he wasn’t a great. Doesn’t mean he was wasn’t involved in great fights. Calzaghe was in the hotly contested fight with Hopkins? And that is partly why he never got the credit in the States. Yanks love a fighter and Joe’s finesse wasn’t what they wanted.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 31 Jul 20 5.25pm |
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Originally posted by djcpfc
He avoided Collins that’s for sure. He was a good fighter a Super-middle but he wasn’t a great. Doesn’t mean he was wasn’t involved in great fights. Calzaghe was in the hotly contested fight with Hopkins? And that is partly why he never got the credit in the States. Yanks love a fighter and Joe’s finesse wasn’t what they wanted.
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| djcpfc Within a 5 minute walk 31 Jul 20 5.58pm |
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He only agreed to fight him after he had been retired for 2 years, and at light heavy. He avoided him like the plague in the mid-90’s when all he had to lose was an IBF title. I stand by my previous statements. Good fighter, great fights with other good fighters. I think it could be said many fighters avoided fights. You don’t end up with great records otherwise, Calzaghe included. RJ he played it well, was up there, but hung around too long. These latest moves are non-sense. Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
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