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NKEagle Flag Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 7.54pm Send a Private Message to NKEagle Add NKEagle as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

The vanguard

How dare you judge these nice young men by their appearance!

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 05 Jun 17 7.55pm

If we are brutally honest we would admit that there is a hierarchy of concern over deaths. Of most concern, family, then friends and acquaintances, locals, national, others. We are more concerned about the unfortunate Canadian woman because she died here than we would have been had she died in Canada. None of this means that we are not shocked and concerned about any death, there are just degrees.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 7.57pm

Originally posted by NKEagle

It's a cowardly sort whose immediate knee-jerk reaction to being attacked is to proclaim that the attack was justified, or to scramble to explain why the attack makes sense. Deluding oneself into believing that the attack is justified, or at least logical, is a self defense mechanism, employed by people who wish to avoid thinking about the fact that we face an enemy that is illogical and irrational. It's a way of convincing oneself that the enemy is less scary. It's easier to think of ISIS as simply trying to right wrongs that we have inflicted on them in the past. Facing the truth is harder.

That said, I totally agree with you about interfering in the Middle East, albeit for, I think, different reasons. I think western countries shouldn't spend one more life or one more penny. Put an iron dome over it and let them have at it.


There's a vast difference between trying to understand why and being an apologist / sympathiser. I think some on here have neglected this fact.


Edited by nickgusset (05 Jun 2017 7.59pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Jun 17 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

*sits back, opens popcorn, waits for indignant spluttering*

This is just common sense. This is what people do.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Jun 17 8.08pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

*splutters indignantly


waddaloadas***e

Do you deny that this is exactly what will happen?

If you do then you are deluded.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Jun 17 8.11pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


There's a vast difference between trying to understand why and being an apologist / sympathiser. I think some on here have neglected this fact.


Edited by nickgusset (05 Jun 2017 7.59pm)

You can't understand insanity. And your first thoughts are never about the victims unless they are from somewhere else.
You have endless previous for it.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Jun 17 8.12pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

If we are brutally honest we would admit that there is a hierarchy of concern over deaths. Of most concern, family, then friends and acquaintances, locals, national, others. We are more concerned about the unfortunate Canadian woman because she died here than we would have been had she died in Canada. None of this means that we are not shocked and concerned about any death, there are just degrees.

Don't waste energy. Nick wheels out that old crap every time British people die.

 

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.TUX. Flag 05 Jun 17 8.21pm

Originally posted by mezzer

It's always SO much easier in opposition. You can say whatever you like. It's when you have to DO something the idealists tend to struggle.

Looking at the facts over the past however many years it's now been, SO DO those in power.

 


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NKEagle Flag Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 8.24pm Send a Private Message to NKEagle Add NKEagle as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


There's a vast difference between trying to understand why and being an apologist / sympathiser. I think some on here have neglected this fact.


Edited by nickgusset (05 Jun 2017 7.59pm)

I don't honestly think that anybody on here is a sympathizer (with the possible exception of that vegan gent from a couple of weeks ago, from whom pretty much nothing would surprise me...). Apologist is a softer accusation, and I think that some people transform into apologists without meaning to, in their efforts to try to comprehend why somebody would do something so horrible. It's human nature to try to ascribe a rational motivation to something so horrible. And to try to identify in some way with the enemy, to make them seem less scary. I'm no psychiatrist, but I would guess that Stockholm Syndrome is based on the same emotional defense mechanism. It's a natural human reaction to fear. The truth is that we're faced with a heavily armed and fanatical cult of delusional sociopaths hell bent on inflicting as much destruction on our society as possible, under the fervent belief that an invisible man with magical powers who lives in the sky will send them to eternal paradise if they torture and murder as many of us as possible as painfully as possible. The fact that people like that exist, and have the means to infiltrate our countries is frankly terrifying. This truth makes us understandably uncomfortable. A natural reaction, which happens perhaps even subconsciously, is to convince oneself that the enemy can't possibly be as monstrous as they seem.

 

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.TUX. Flag 05 Jun 17 8.37pm

Originally posted by NKEagle

I don't honestly think that anybody on here is a sympathizer (with the possible exception of that vegan gent from a couple of weeks ago, from whom pretty much nothing would surprise me...). Apologist is a softer accusation, and I think that some people transform into apologists without meaning to, in their efforts to try to comprehend why somebody would do something so horrible. It's human nature to try to ascribe a rational motivation to something so horrible. And to try to identify in some way with the enemy, to make them seem less scary. I'm no psychiatrist, but I would guess that Stockholm Syndrome is based on the same emotional defense mechanism. It's a natural human reaction to fear. The truth is that we're faced with a heavily armed and fanatical cult of delusional sociopaths hell bent on inflicting as much destruction on our society as possible, under the fervent belief that an invisible man with magical powers who lives in the sky will send them to eternal paradise if they torture and murder as many of us as possible as painfully as possible. The fact that people like that exist, and have the means to infiltrate our countries is frankly terrifying. This truth makes us understandably uncomfortable. A natural reaction, which happens perhaps even subconsciously, is to convince oneself that the enemy can't possibly be as monstrous as they seem.

Really?

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 05 Jun 17 8.42pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Really?

I think he's right,and I think the only reason ak47s aren't involved is the fact we have a body of water between us and mainland Europe.

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 05 Jun 17 8.53pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

I think he's right,and I think the only reason ak47s aren't involved is the fact we have a body of water between us and mainland Europe.

Only a matter of time.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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