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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 27 Apr 23 11.33am
He'd be quite introverted though as every time he'd try to go into a pub he'd be greeted with You're Bard Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 27 Apr 23 11.33am

He'd be quite introverted though as every time he'd try to go into a pub he'd be greeted with You're Bard

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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steeleye20 Croydon 27 Apr 23 12.00pm
'To be, or not to be, that is the question.....' A Liberal Democrat.
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Croydon 27 Apr 23 12.00pm

'To be, or not to be, that is the question.....'

A Liberal Democrat.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Apr 23 12.48pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'To be, or not to be, that is the question.....' A Liberal Democrat. I drink therefore I am... a Liberal Democrat - Charles Kennedy. Bit below the belt that Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Apr 23 12.48pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'To be, or not to be, that is the question.....'

A Liberal Democrat.

I drink therefore I am... a Liberal Democrat - Charles Kennedy.

Bit below the belt that

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Teddy Eagle 27 Apr 23 1.00pm
Originally posted by georgenorman Was that before he turned to painting? That one should've teamed up with his contemporary Lucian and formed the Freud Bacon Company.
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27 Apr 23 1.00pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Was that before he turned to painting?

That one should've teamed up with his contemporary Lucian and formed the Freud Bacon Company.

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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Apr 23 2.09pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Classic conspiracy theory. This site is so full of it. Highly unlikely. I assume you are an anti-Stratfordian because our Bill wasn’t posh enough to be so successful. I've just seen this. Shakespeare, 'the real person' never travelled outside of England. Experts on the subject, which I am not, say that the detail in many plays set abroad could only be written by someone who was familiar with the geography, architecture and people used as inspiration. Edward De Vere is the most likely candidate. Snobbery has nothing to do with it, as far as I'm aware.
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27 Apr 23 2.09pm

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Classic conspiracy theory. This site is so full of it. Highly unlikely. I assume you are an anti-Stratfordian because our Bill wasn’t posh enough to be so successful.

I've just seen this.

Shakespeare, 'the real person' never travelled outside of England.
Experts on the subject, which I am not, say that the detail in many plays set abroad could only be written by someone who was familiar with the geography, architecture and people used as inspiration.

Edward De Vere is the most likely candidate.

Snobbery has nothing to do with it, as far as I'm aware.

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Badger11 Beckenham 27 Apr 23 2.21pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I've just seen this. Shakespeare, 'the real person' never travelled outside of England. Experts on the subject, which I am not, say that the detail in many plays set abroad could only be written by someone who was familiar with the geography, architecture and people used as inspiration. Edward De Vere is the most likely candidate. Snobbery has nothing to do with it, as far as I'm aware. That we know of. As I said in my post many of Shakespeare's foreign plays are based on classic / well known stories myths and legends. Shakespeare may not have traveled abroad but he could also have added colour from talking to merchants and travellers who did. He's plays aren't exactly travelogues. I would recommend reading This is Shakespeare by Emma Smith. This is not a who was Shakespeare story just a simple explanation of each of his plays and what they mean. You may not change your mind but it showed to me that most of his plays had source material so who ever he was I found it interesting about why he wrote Macbeth etc. One more point
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Beckenham 27 Apr 23 2.21pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I've just seen this.

Shakespeare, 'the real person' never travelled outside of England.
Experts on the subject, which I am not, say that the detail in many plays set abroad could only be written by someone who was familiar with the geography, architecture and people used as inspiration.

Edward De Vere is the most likely candidate.

Snobbery has nothing to do with it, as far as I'm aware.

That we know of.

As I said in my post many of Shakespeare's foreign plays are based on classic / well known stories myths and legends.

Shakespeare may not have traveled abroad but he could also have added colour from talking to merchants and travellers who did.
He's plays aren't exactly travelogues.

I would recommend reading This is Shakespeare by Emma Smith. This is not a who was Shakespeare story just a simple explanation of each of his plays and what they mean.

You may not change your mind but it showed to me that most of his plays had source material so who ever he was I found it interesting about why he wrote Macbeth etc.

One more point

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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Apr 23 4.24pm
Originally posted by Badger11 That we know of. As I said in my post many of Shakespeare's foreign plays are based on classic / well known stories myths and legends. Shakespeare may not have traveled abroad but he could also have added colour from talking to merchants and travellers who did. He's plays aren't exactly travelogues. I would recommend reading This is Shakespeare by Emma Smith. This is not a who was Shakespeare story just a simple explanation of each of his plays and what they mean. You may not change your mind but it showed to me that most of his plays had source material so who ever he was I found it interesting about why he wrote Macbeth etc. Listen, I'm only repeating what other more informed thespians have said. Even the great Derek Jacobi promotes this theory.
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Hrolf The Ganger

27 Apr 23 4.24pm

Originally posted by Badger11

That we know of.

As I said in my post many of Shakespeare's foreign plays are based on classic / well known stories myths and legends.

Shakespeare may not have traveled abroad but he could also have added colour from talking to merchants and travellers who did.
He's plays aren't exactly travelogues.

I would recommend reading This is Shakespeare by Emma Smith. This is not a who was Shakespeare story just a simple explanation of each of his plays and what they mean.

You may not change your mind but it showed to me that most of his plays had source material so who ever he was I found it interesting about why he wrote Macbeth etc.

Listen, I'm only repeating what other more informed thespians have said.
Even the great Derek Jacobi promotes this theory.

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Stirlingsays 02 May 23 7.56pm
Here's Calvin Robinson, saying some home truths about the Conservative party. Bailey making some good points too. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (02 May 2023 7.59pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 May 23 7.56pm

Here's Calvin Robinson, saying some home truths about the Conservative party. Bailey making some good points too.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (02 May 2023 7.59pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 03 May 23 9.08am
For more evidence of what is happening in this country and corporate political collusion then Lawrence Fox....who by all means is pretty milk toast just posted this. 'If you are concerned about where this country is headed, think about this - @thereclaimparty cannot get a uk bank account. Despite three years of box ticking and immaculate compliance. In fact, entire new compliance departments are created just to stop us existing. Also, regardless of having an @Experian credit score of 996/999, a consistent income and having liquidity in the bank, today I have been declined a mortgage by the last of the four major lenders. My car insurance has gone from £1000 a year to £10,000 a year in a the last two years. Why am I a threat to them? If they can do it to me. They WILL do it to you.' Perhaps someone might ask why all this was allowed to happen under a supposedly conservative government. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 May 2023 9.09am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 May 23 9.08am

For more evidence of what is happening in this country and corporate political collusion then Lawrence Fox....who by all means is pretty milk toast just posted this.

'If you are concerned about where this country is headed, think about this -

@thereclaimparty
cannot get a uk bank account. Despite three years of box ticking and immaculate compliance. In fact, entire new compliance departments are created just to stop us existing.

Also, regardless of having an
@Experian
credit score of 996/999, a consistent income and having liquidity in the bank, today I have been declined a mortgage by the last of the four major lenders.

My car insurance has gone from £1000 a year to £10,000 a year in a the last two years.

Why am I a threat to them?

If they can do it to me. They WILL do it to you.'

Perhaps someone might ask why all this was allowed to happen under a supposedly conservative government.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 May 2023 9.09am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Matov 10 May 23 8.48pm
[Link] Why the Tories are utter scum. Anybody who voted for us to leave the EU would be utterly insane to ever vote for the Tories ever again. Handed a MASSIVE majority on a plate due to telling us they wanted to 'Get Brexit Done' and still this. If anybody does not believe they are prepping us for going back in then they are fools. I confess to being a f***ing idiot. I held my nose and voted for both May in 2017 and Johnson in 2019 purely on the basis of wanting Brexit to be a success despite me loathing them both. Never again. Stabbed in the back. Not by Labour. Not by the Lib-Dems. But by the Tories. Utter scum. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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10 May 23 8.48pm

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Why the Tories are utter scum. Anybody who voted for us to leave the EU would be utterly insane to ever vote for the Tories ever again. Handed a MASSIVE majority on a plate due to telling us they wanted to 'Get Brexit Done' and still this.

If anybody does not believe they are prepping us for going back in then they are fools.

I confess to being a f***ing idiot. I held my nose and voted for both May in 2017 and Johnson in 2019 purely on the basis of wanting Brexit to be a success despite me loathing them both.

Never again. Stabbed in the back. Not by Labour. Not by the Lib-Dems. But by the Tories. Utter scum.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Matov 12 May 23 8.36pm
Bit of chatter about a potential move against Sunak starting to build momentum with a mixture of the recent local elections and the climb down over the scrapping of the EU laws. Suspect it is all just hot air but in this political reality, anything is possible. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

12 May 23 8.36pm

Bit of chatter about a potential move against Sunak starting to build momentum with a mixture of the recent local elections and the climb down over the scrapping of the EU laws.

Suspect it is all just hot air but in this political reality, anything is possible.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 May 23 8.48pm
Originally posted by Matov [Link] Why the Tories are utter scum. Anybody who voted for us to leave the EU would be utterly insane to ever vote for the Tories ever again. Handed a MASSIVE majority on a plate due to telling us they wanted to 'Get Brexit Done' and still this. If anybody does not believe they are prepping us for going back in then they are fools. I confess to being a f***ing idiot. I held my nose and voted for both May in 2017 and Johnson in 2019 purely on the basis of wanting Brexit to be a success despite me loathing them both. Never again. Stabbed in the back. Not by Labour. Not by the Lib-Dems. But by the Tories. Utter scum. A bit too much hyperbole for this time of night. The Tories are hamstrung by division in their ranks. Brexit was supposed to fix that. It didn't. Thinking of voting Labour? If they do a deal with the Liberals them we will get a big push for proportional representation and another referendum on Europe. This country is already screwed enough already without that lunacy.
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Hrolf The Ganger

12 May 23 8.48pm

Originally posted by Matov

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If anybody does not believe they are prepping us for going back in then they are fools.

I confess to being a f***ing idiot. I held my nose and voted for both May in 2017 and Johnson in 2019 purely on the basis of wanting Brexit to be a success despite me loathing them both.

Never again. Stabbed in the back. Not by Labour. Not by the Lib-Dems. But by the Tories. Utter scum.

A bit too much hyperbole for this time of night.

The Tories are hamstrung by division in their ranks. Brexit was supposed to fix that. It didn't.

Thinking of voting Labour? If they do a deal with the Liberals them we will get a big push for proportional representation and another referendum on Europe.

This country is already screwed enough already without that lunacy.

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